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Pondering One Valley, One Vision

In my college philosophy class, we learned of the famous dialectic, a method by which a person can synthesize two seemingly different ideas and come up with something agreeable to all parties involved.

Basically, it goes like this. Party A argues for their thesis.

Party B argues the antithesis.

And after much debate we finally get around to the synthesis, the solution to the “conflict between the thesis and antithesis by reconciling their common truths, and forming a new proposition.”

What’s this have to do with One Valley, One Vision, the joint City/County long-term planning document that’s open for public review this week at City Hall and which is already becoming controversial? Well, witness the thesis/antithesis/synthesis play out in the opening pages of OVOV’s Land Use document, the document at the heart of the SCV’s future:

The diversity of settlement patterns within the Santa Clarita Valley is viewed as a positive aspect of the community, an acknowledgement of the  area’s history and topography, in recognition that the Valley can accommodate and provide diverse areas suitable for different lifestyles. However, the benefits of a unified approach to good planning cannot be ignored in favor of diversity. It may appear that Valley residents desire two seemingly inconsistent goals: maintenance of diversity and community identity, and a coordinated approach to orderly development. It is the aim of the One Valley One Vision planning effort to bring these two goals together into two workable planning policy documents, the City’s General Plan and the County’s Area plan.

If there is one thing to understand about OVOV, it is the quote above. There is a conflict in this community. On one side we have residents -newcomers and oldtimers alike- who like the SCV just as it is, thank you very much. They like the small town vibe, they like the character of Valencia, or Newhall, or the rustic environment offered in parts of Canyon Country. They naturally want to preserve that feeling and way of life we have here.

And then on the other side, we have a few demands from those residents and some unpleasant truths. The same residents who want the City to preserve the SCV and keep it from developing too much also complain that there aren’t enough jobs or things to do in town (only 25% of respondents were satisfied with the amount of jobs in the SCV in the City’s winter 2010 survey). They also say they want the City to manage growth. And the unpleasant truth has to do with the fact that we live in a free market society in which land owners (ie developers) enjoy the freedom to build the things they want on the land they own and in which free individuals can move to places they like and buy the real property they want.

It is the City’s job to synthesize a solution out of these two contradictory and inconsistent realities. And the City’s solution is generally OVOV, and more specifically, the widely-mocked but poorly understood “Valley of Villages” concept in which the City tries to preserve the feel of certain neighborhoods while strategically managing growth in a free market and providing jobs and things to do for its residents.

That’s what OVOV is about. OVOV is not about the City building houses and high density apartments for an additional 200,000 people; it is about managing that growth which comes from private citizens exercising their own free will to move here and private companies which profit from building houses for those people. The City can no more control that dynamic than it can control the weather. What it can do, however, is manage that dynamic in such a way that the outcome is better for all than if we were to just let the market determine our growth.

So if I could offer a word of advice to passionate SCVers it is this: recognize that OVOV is an honest and, yes, open effort to strategically map out the SCV for the next 20-30 years. Recognize that there is good will and good faith behind the documents. Recognize too that without this document, this 10 year long planning effort, there would be little to no control over what developers do.

Attack the plan if you must, but attack it on what it actually is trying to do, do not attack it based on the scary headlines, half-truths and blog posts (yes, some even here) that will play out in the SCV media over the days and weeks to come.

Whatever your opinion of the City, they deserve, in my view, a clean slate as it relates to OVOV. Let’s be reasonable and rational adults when discussing the future of the SCV.

Pondering One Valley, One Vision

Comments (10)

  1. lvogelOctober 4, 2010 at 2:25 pm
    I get high density/diversity. I understand the ‘city’ would like to bring in those business’s that would help make the building of such area’s manageable and successful. I understand that the city in turn can thrive with the money that will be brought in from such bussiness and more residents. My problem is, and always has been, the amount of growth and how much control will there be in regards to PUBLIC SERVICES. We will need additional police, fire, hospital, schools. Until I know that these concerns are being met, I am not for 200,000 more residents (working or not) in this valley. Sorry Jeff, but I think that most people that moved to this valley (and I know this discussion has taken place before) did so knowing that there wasn’t the diversity this OVOV plan speaks of. I knew 22 years ago that if I wanted entertainment/culture, I’d have to go over the hill. I knew that my job that allows me to live in this valley, would require me to go over the hill to the SFV. I moved from the SFV to a better school system, less crime, etc. So, until I know that the services SCV’s citizens deserve are being met and concerned with (not just companies, entertainment and housing), I don’t want this valley turning into another SFV. Sure, the city can put high density ‘pockets’ in this city, but don’t think it won’t effect the entire valley. Traffic, smog, crime are going to only get worse. The hospital that is almost done being expanded (no, not the MOB’s), will not be enough to house residents that may need hospitalization. We have only 2 sheriffs depts. here (the one in CC smaller I believe than the one in Valencia), and that will not be enough. Not sure if this is unreasonable, or if you feel that it’s irrational, but I’m not alone in this opinion. I moved to this valley for a certain way of life, and no, I don’t want that to change.
  2. SterlingOctober 4, 2010 at 9:06 pm
    Well said
  3. Fred ButlerOctober 4, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    Living in the SCV is like participating in a Hegelian-Marxist dialectic session? That’s a good one. I’ll be chuckling about it all evening. Thanks.
  4. ToddOctober 4, 2010 at 4:57 pm
    What I think most people fail to understand is that OVOV doesn’t originate with some guys who just sit around thinking “how can we really screw things up?” State law requires that communities plan for growth. Because, despite recent pullbacks, growth is inevitable over the long term. So our governments are required to do these documents and plan for the growth. Now, the thing is, we don’t get to dictate how much growth we’ll have. The state does that. They tell us what they think the population will be in 20 years. So we don’t really get the option of avoiding the “high density development.” What we hope for, is that the plan isn’t underestimating the impact. Because when you’re struggling to amend the plan to catch up, thats when things get hairy. A well thought out, carefully designed, and strictly adhered to, general plan can be a good thing. Anyone who thinks that the SCV won’t evolve over the next 20 years, I need to only point in the direction of the SFV. That valley has changed dramatically since people started first inhabiting it. And changed again once the defense industry left. We’re in for change. The question is: Do you want to be involved in shaping the change, or do you just want to sit back and complain about it?
  5. TimBen BoydstonOctober 4, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    The OVOV plan will create twice the density without twice the roads. There will be twice as many cars on the road and that will make the air twice as fouled (more if you count all of the air pollution from cars sitting in traffic jams). People will not jump onto mass transit and take to cycling everywhere. It doesn’t happen in the SFV and LA. and it sure won’t happen here because we are topographically challenged. Good planning is about common sense as well. It would be wonderful if we could all do more bike riding, walking, and more mass transit. But people riding up and down hills in 100 degree heat on bikes for most of the population does not make sense. Why not say in our OVOV that we will commit to keeping the traffic no worse than what is called for in our current general plan. Build houses and jobs only if you build the roads. As far as an “open and honest effort” at planning, I invite you Jeff to spend 4 hours with me to go over this plan. Ask the City planning Department if you and I can go in with a video camera and ask questions of the planning Department reps with the camera rolling. Jason Smisko, Paul Brotsman, and Lisa Webber all said they would do it, but then they refused to honor their words. Ask them.
  6. Daddy Joe GOctober 4, 2010 at 7:31 pm
    When Harry Truman was president, he and the first lady were at a party. Someone said to Bess “I wish you could get the president to stop saying ‘horse manure’”. She replied “It’s taken me 20 years to get him to start saying ‘horse manure’”. I wish I could think of something that nice to say about OVOV.
  7. NickelDimeOctober 4, 2010 at 7:52 pm
    Given the choice between having a framework to manage growth and not having a framework to manage growth, I’d go for the former. Ironically, SFV took the latter course, yet those yelling the loudest cite SFV as the rationale for opposition.
  8. Daddy Joe GOctober 5, 2010 at 6:06 am
    I too, like the idea of being put in a little box with roller coasters and wate slides. Planning beats living anytime.
  9. spineflower2October 4, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    OVOV will be debated and serious public input duly taken into consideration by Our Fair City. Just like was done for the library takeover. The fix is in.
  10. Daddy Joe GOctober 5, 2010 at 6:03 am
    Since when is “If enough people vote “no” we may not do it” call democracy?

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