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SCV Culture Wars Round 1

Newly transplanted SCVer “Michelle” weighs in on my silly post about SCV food trucks going mainstream:

Why would you want food trucks here? That’s part of the fun that you go down to LA for!! People here like home cooked meals and an occasional night at CPK. Growing up in Santa Monica, I know how crazy the food truck “craze” is. I wouldn’t go up here. But I’m sure many hipsters and those types will. Let’s just turn SCV into an extension of LA. People move out here to get away from that stuff.

But my point is that SCV is a more boring place. Not in a bad way, just in a way that I like the simplicity of living up here.

Maybe you should get in your Prius and take a trip to LA.

For the record, I ride bikes and try to take the bus whenever possible, so your smug suggestion (smuggestion?) that I get in my Prius is already wrong. I’d go all multi-modal on your suggested trip to LA, taking my bike on board the train, then riding to my destination. And you’re wrong on another count too: there are many of us here who don’t like that the SCV is a “boring simplistic” place, we want a little more variety, a little more spice, a few more interesting things to do, a few more dining options than CPK or Cheesecake Factory.

I know for many people, yourself included perhaps, the SCV is nothing more than a bedroom community, a place you only experience while you sleep. But there are many of us who grew up here, who are not transplants, who believe there is some culture, interesting people and history here and many of us are thrilled that we’re getting just a little taste of some of the things LA has to offer. It’s not an either/or proposition Michelle, the SCV can have both the great things of LA and the great things that make the SCV a nice place to live now.

If you don’t like that, I suggest you get in your SUV and floor it on up to the Antelope Valley, where you can feel at home in LA County’s premiere bedroom community. No one will upset you there.

Welcome to SCVTalk Michelle. Stick around. :)

SCV Culture Wars Round 1

Comments (72)

  1. DaveSeptember 16, 2010 at 9:07 am
    The Santa Clarita Valley, were the highest expression of culture is landscaping.
  2. MoneySeptember 16, 2010 at 9:11 am
    …and spelling is not important.
  3. mikeSeptember 16, 2010 at 9:19 am
    I think the Prius comment was directed at me, in which case: guilty as charged.
  4. Mike MSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:32 am
    I think there are at least a half-dozen of us Prius owners around here, although my Prius does share garage/driveway space with a 7 passenger SUV and two motorcycles… Damnit, I don’t fit any stereotypes!!
  5. Tim MyersSeptember 16, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    I have a Camry Hybrid!
  6. DamageincSeptember 16, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    I got an SUV suck liberals!
  7. mikeSeptember 16, 2010 at 9:28 am
    There is a very important distinction that slices through groups of people of all types in this valley. There are those of us who view this as our city, the place we live, maybe the place we work and maybe even the place where we grew up. Then there are those who see living here as some sort of antidote to either their previous living arrangement or an escape from their daily grind over the hill. Of the former group, some want high density and some want country living. But we all want our town to have some character. We don’t get excited for a new Chili’s or CPK. This is our town and what it is should be an expression of who we are and not a reaction to where we were.
  8. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 16, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Well put Mike. For me it’s the place I live and, while I don’t spend as many hours a day as I’d like in our valley (Due to employment in Burbank), I thoroughly enjoy living here. I am one of the people that would like to see a greater diversity of experience available in our valley and I don’t believe that better food options automatically comes equipped with crack heads and crime. I think some music venues and diverse food options, a little bit of night life, would all make our valley a more enjoyable place to live WITHOUT doing any damage to those who want the CPK, PTA life style. Those things are not mutually exclusive in spite of the slippery slope criers.
  9. SFC PerezSeptember 16, 2010 at 8:45 pm
    I think the SCV is a beautiful place to live and it would be great to see more offerings than your standard franchise chains. The problem usually occurs when ppl dont patronize these businesses. I work and live here but am hesitant to pen too much of an opinion since I am a temporary resident destined to move again in a few years thanks to Uncle Sammy. But in the meantime I would like to enjoy the uniqueness here. PS. I still wish there was a freakin Dunkin Donuts here though!
  10. CCSeptember 16, 2010 at 9:44 am
    What?!? Are you dissing the Rendezvous? I sometimes like to leave Awesometown for some culture in Newhall! Then I can hit a drive through, text my banking, and head on back to the land of Milk & Honey to Facebook my crazy experience on the other side of town. Yeee Haw!
  11. WalkerSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Haha. I don’t know what’s funnier, that Michelle got her own post or that FoodTruck Fest got a drama post
  12. dorothymantoothSeptember 16, 2010 at 11:47 am
    Jeff Put so perfectly, it’s no wonder you’re a 40 under 40er! I grew up here and left because I thought this was such a boring, sleepy community. Then I realized that a place is what you make of it, so I came back! I love living here-my family, friends and community rock and I’m not a young, married, mother of 2.5 kids driving an SUV to a playdate. BUT, some of my friends are and that is what makes this community great. The ability to interact with everybody because it’s just a BIG small town! I would really like to make this town boozey, but that might be just me! A few more shady, yet not douche-y bars would be nice around here! (Sorry CC, but since the Rendevous became simply THE VU-it’s Douche Factor has gone up exponentially.) But, I’ll settle for some fun gourmet food trucks for a little taste of what LA has to offer!
  13. CCSeptember 16, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    LOL, yeah it’s a great place to go if you want to say you’ve been to the underbelly of Santa Clarita. Just make sure you shower after you get home.
  14. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 16, 2010 at 1:33 pm
    Doc’s Inn also provides a nice amount of seedy bar experience, plus Karaoke on Wednesdays
  15. GangFangSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
    Saying the douche factor at any bar in Santa Clarita has gone up is akin to saying water just got wetter.
  16. SCVrezSeptember 16, 2010 at 12:50 pm
    Ah, the things we now take for granted. “We don’t get excited for another Chili’s or CPK…” Are you kidding me??!!! We’re you at the CPK grand opening…or even NOW??? You can hardly walk in the place. And when Chili’s opened it was similar. This community spent years–no, decades–trying to get some of the major chains (or any type) to come here. HOWEVER, most of us…I would think…like some balance. So as more and more chain stores come up here, it does make us wish we had more unique and independent dining and retail options…
  17. SterlingSeptember 16, 2010 at 4:23 pm
    Look, are you telling me that these roach coach food trucks driving around in mainly Latino neighborhoods are bringing the spice of life to SCV Jeff? You lump these dilapidated dirty dispensaries of questionable laxative educing foods with needing fun things to do in Santa Clarita? This is not the taste of LA that I have in mind when I’m looking for culture or variety. If I have the right trucks in mind as per your comments, I think they should not be out despising food on any street in our valley. They have papers for sure. From where? The same place they buy fake social security numbers and fraudulent drivers licenses? This stuff can send the up and comers you speak of to the hospital from extreme dehydration from diarrhea or better yet worms. You have to be conditioned for this type of food and most of us aren’t and never will be. Why don’t you see them parked in Bridgeport? Why would you endorse this stuff. Are you suggesting we all lower our standards and go out on the town by dressing up and enjoying some (LA culture) by spend evenings over candlelight behind a local taco delicatessen on wheels or browsing peppers and lettuce for the evening home cooked meal? Come on man. I don’t mean to be hurtful to anyone who may run one of these trucks. This just the way it is. I’ve been in a couple myself and they are disgusting.
  18. mikeSeptember 16, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    Wow! What an asshole. That aside, he’s not talking about those trucks. I suppose you’ve been living under a rock, but Googling “LA food trucks” or something similar might be a good start.
  19. CCSeptember 16, 2010 at 9:20 pm
    Yeah, if you aren’t plugged into the food truck culture, you’re an asshole and should know better than to post your thoughts if they differ from Mikes! For shame!
  20. Tim MyersSeptember 16, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    Sterling only eats beige food with a generous dollop of mayo????
  21. rosieraySeptember 16, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    and who is this Sterling dude (dudette) anyways, all I see is negative comments
  22. GangFangSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:11 pm
    Takes his wife to Arby’s for their anniversary?
  23. GangFangSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:24 pm
    Sterling, in all of his Jack Mormon glory – http://www.youtube.com/user/vintageyellow71
  24. ScottSeptember 16, 2010 at 5:16 pm
    The Korean taco trucks are amazing. I have a friend that owns one in San Diego and he is as obsessive compulsive as Howie Mandel would be cooking himself dinner. I guarantee his truck and food is cleaner than any local BJ’s or Olive Garden. Are you aware that the food in these crappy restaurants are typically prepared and frozen somewhere else anyways? So that being said, the A rating on the outside of a restaurant doesn’t paint the whole picture. My Buddy’s food is great, he was actually an award winning chef, but decided to venture out and start his own business. He is doing well, and it’s actually a challenge to find Korean Tacos anywhere else.
  25. GangFangSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:10 pm
    Wait, Bridgeport is now the guiding and divine light for all things clean and acceptable? The parking spot for perfection?
  26. GangFangSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:35 pm
    Sterling The Wonder Mormon: Have a gander where the foodtruck festival (that Jeff was discussing in the original post) is being held.
  27. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:28 am
    Sorry GandFag, you’ll have to call someone who does that work. It seems like you have a lot of time on your hands so why don’t you go rent yourself a rug doctor and do something with your time instead of being intellectually indolent about the issue at hand- food trucks. Yep I’m Mormon alright. Proud of it. FYI- “Jack Mormon” has a meaning of which I am not part of its definition. In place of throwing out red flags displaying your ignorance about LDS slang, why don’t you type words into a great web browser called GOOGLE or a site like Wikipedia so you don’t look so uninformed. Be careful, we might be the ones who has to feed you in a disaster one day with all our grain silos. I’ll keep a look out for you when you can’t get food and maybe I’ll share my own with you. Don’t want you to starve to death.
  28. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:29 am
    OOPs, sorry for the typo on your name there GF.
  29. Mark from SaugusSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:12 am
    I have a love/despise relationship with food.
  30. SterlingSeptember 16, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    “If I have the right trucks in mind as per your comments” You know mike, it might help if you read everything. If I’m missing the type of trucks then correct my interpretation based on what was meant. It takes a real A@%H#$! to call me or anyone that right off the bat. According to the so called vehicles I referred to I’m right about every word. Don’t be such a moron so quickly. It’s not good for your heart.
  31. MikeSeptember 16, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    Sterling, that’s why I said “that aside”. It’s an assholish response either way. You are way off the mark when referring to the taco trucks and it was a xenophobic reaction. There is no other word for it.
  32. SterlingSeptember 16, 2010 at 5:46 pm
    Scott, if you run into a gourmet food truck as you describe here in the valley, feel free to let me know and I will gladly have a crack at it. Thanks for sharing
  33. SterlingSeptember 16, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    It’s all true what I said. When I find you down on walnut street filling up your plate or burlap sack full of produce and pickled pigs feet I wont place you in the fear of sub par food group. As for being xenophobic, my wife is a legal immigrant and us citizen from Romania. I wont call you an A$%H*&^ because I have more class but It won’t stop you from looking like one.
  34. GangFangSeptember 16, 2010 at 10:06 pm
    Mail order much?
  35. SterlingSeptember 16, 2010 at 7:35 pm
    Mike, As for your previous comments, it doesn’t matter what kind of city people want. Kenny Boy over there in city hall will do and get whatever he wants. Until 175,000 people show up to city hall for a mutual admiration society meeting (oops-a city council meeting) all the little idle chit chat and squabbles here or anywhere don’t mean a thing anymore.
  36. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 4:58 am
    Keep dishin it out gangfang. In true liberal fashion you show your colors. Now you want to go anti religious on me because my opinion of food trucks is not yours. Your a real man there! What’s your real name so we can dig for your background and ridicule it? I’m fine with sticking on topic but you? You’re a moron.
  37. GangFangSeptember 17, 2010 at 7:20 am
    Shut yer trap and clean my carpets, son.
  38. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:55 am
    Did you mean clean your clock?
  39. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 9:19 am
    Sterling, I grew up LDS but am no longer part of your ilk. My wife and kids still are and I will bluntly say that people like you and your attitudes, self righteousness and ignorance are a huge part of what drove me away. You are an embarrassment to humanity, let alone Mormons with your attitudes of intolerance and name calling, and for someone who obviously has a disdain for “those people” your butchering of the English language here is astoundingly ironic. Your initial post about the food trucks was repugnant at best and it has all been down hill from there. Pull the beam out of your own eye “brother.” Gangfang is no better to stoop to the level of making your religion the crux of their attack on you, but you bit and then made it valid. You seriously have some growing up and soul searching to do, there is nothing “Christ-like” about your behavior, statements or attitude in regards to any of the issues you have jumped into here. I welcome the fact that you and I have different opinions and think that’s what makes this country great, but the venom and hate in your tone, and in Gangfang’s frankly, are what are destroying the potential for meaningful dialogue. Your opinion was not innocently about food trucks but an attack on the way that “those people” operate, and even the modes of picking up their vegetables in burlap sacks, your tone drips with disgust and disdain for “them.” WWJD my friend, search your soul for that answer before spewing anymore of your racist bullshit.
  40. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    WWJD? He would tell you to get off your duff and get to church where it sounds like you would fit in very well. Sounds like any normal congregation anywhere. If you can point out just one of those people you refer to (other then me and you) I would be very interested. Soul searching has brought me to the belief then firm understanding that the trucks I referred to are disgusting. By sound medical practitioners advice to stay away from those dispensaries for obvious reasons, I’m not to concerned what you feel about my thoughts on the matter.
  41. Silence DogoodSeptember 17, 2010 at 9:32 am
    Ding Ding Ding! Round 1 of the SCV culture wars is over! It’s time for the street brawlers to go back to their corners. And this is why I rarely come to this site anymore. Jeff, the 40 under 40 Princeling, needs to clean this site up and start banning some trash-talking posters, or give them a timeout or something.
  42. CCSeptember 17, 2010 at 10:26 am
    Yep
  43. UrsulaSeptember 17, 2010 at 10:53 am
    People keep feeding the trolls.
  44. OlenkaSeptember 17, 2010 at 1:02 pm
    I say let them fight. You don’t want to read it, don’t. Read the posts and leave. Not reading a blog because of some trash-talkers is a lame excuse. Let them fight. It’s highly entertaining. Round 2: FIGHT.
  45. GangFangSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    O: Warm up a vat of Jello, it’s time to WRASTLE!
  46. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    Jeff (not scv jeff) Easy cowboy, other then gamgf who couldn’t respond originally without being just as you’re blaming me for, I don’t see this as your business. Don’t be such a sisy jeff! I’ve been here longer then you and participated much. Including my commentary on dirty produce and tacco trucks. Every word is true and not one human was debased. Know what you’re talking about before you call my commentary on bad food trucks disgusting. As for you being a disgruntled Mormon who judges the heck out other Mormons by deciding they are being as you described, no I’m not lay down doormat who stays away from having an opinion and sticking up for it. You decided be so offended. Don’t blame me for your bad attitude, you own that lock stock and barrel. If you can’t take straight talk then mind your business. PS jeff- I referred to GamgF filling his burlap sack (recyclable – save the climate disruption sack) you’re Mormon, you should have understood that.
  47. GangFangSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    I’m trying to respond here, but Sterling is making less and less sense with each sEnTtEncSE.
  48. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    Sorry GangFang, do want me to slow down, or check my writing for errors from my phone? I’m more interested in the road but go ahead, I’m really interested at what you have more me today. How far off topic from bad food trucks on walnut street? You’ve gone the religious rout and my family, whats next. is it worth it to you? What’s your real name by the way? Are you a bit shy to put that out there?
  49. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    So you’re texting this gibberish while driving? FAN-TAST-IC! Wise choice sir.
  50. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    Why would I leave you salivating on your keyboard Jeff (not the scvtalk jeff thank goodness) ? It would brake my heart if Jeff had to right an obit for the ravenous and rapacious scvtalk blog poster Jeff because he was the first to pass away from electric shock due to drool.
  51. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    Name?? Not comfortable with that?
  52. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    I can’t argue with that gangfang.
  53. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    A sissy? Really??? Are you in 7th grade? What in the world did I say that made that insult valid ROFL? As for whether it is my business or not, when I see someone behaving as a bigoted Ass I have never had a problem with making it my business to call them on it rather than remain silent. You said “driving around in mainly Latino neighborhoods,” “They have papers for sure. From where? The same place they buy fake social security numbers and fraudulent drivers licenses?” Sure, it sounds like you were just referencing food and casting no aspersions on people based on your assumptions regarding their skin color. Not one human debased huh? Try again sport. Your commentary was not just on bad food trucks but OBVIOUSLY also by extension the people who run them, your agenda is paper thin. I’m not a disgruntled anything Sterling, least of all a disgruntled Mormon, but those of your ilk who are nasty, spiteful, judgmental, racist & bigoted I have no tolerance for. Your re-spelling of Gangfang’s name in your early response being another 7th grade level bigoted epithet tells us all we need to know. “no I’m not lay down doormat” – HUH??? As for how long you’ve been here I don’t give a deuce, that’s 100% irrelevant as your seniority wouldn’t give you amnesty on being bigoted and nasty. I’ll call it where I see it regardless of my tenure. The way you are acting you give Mormons a bad name Sterling, the vast majority are good and decent people who are great neighbors and an asset to the community, then there are those who like yourself make them easy targets for criticisms about being bigoted simpletons. Those stereotypes are neither fair nor correct but people like you make it hard to argue against. WWJD brother.
  54. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:08 pm
    And my tail is where after your rather spoiled sport rant? I’m sure you were hoping it was between my legs!! Well it’s not. Now that your efforts to label me with everything you could conjure up in the thesaurus. I’m perfectly happy knowing I’m not any of those rather self righteous insults you speak of and anyone who knows me, including vast amount of my Latino friends of whom I am intricately close to would send you down the river without a paddle if they saw your WWJD rant. For your information many of your local roach coaches have been illegally running all over LA under the disguise of fraudulent papers that have been directly traced back to illegal dispensaries of other fake US documents. Many have been confiscated and destroyed in crushers, exported like our out of date buses or they’re auctioned off. Go down to Olive View and ask the ER what they see from bad produce and Taco trucks. It’s a real issue that you may want to ignore while relishing behind your adulation that you can call (a Mormon) every racial and bigoted remark you can muster up but you don’t know me from Adam and you lack of knowledge shows more then my truck remarks. No wonder you emotionally check out of the Mormon church. Don’t worry about my neighbors. We are very close and they know my stand up watch-care over our neighborhood. Am I self righteous? Gave more then I will openly disclose to the Garnica’s http://scvtalk.com/2010/07/09/carwash-support/ As not to sound overly self righteous perhaps I’ll stop there. I’ll tell you what Jeff (not the scvtalk jeff) your truly not worth it to me. Nor you hunt for someone to label the self righteous Mormon. I’ll still share my food storage with you. WWJD? He would tell you to loose the hate you oozes from your keyboard and stop self righteously judging people you know nothing about and get your butt to church!! That said, your attempts to evoke some type of personal or spiritual guilt based on my faith is sorely lacking any lift off. Sorry to say Jeff (not scvtalk jeff) I have trifled long enough with you. Come see me and we’ll have good chat in church sometime. Perhaps you might find me much less the monster you’ve invented in your vast cranial reserves of creativity. We have pews for the self righteous- we can sit together
  55. NickelDimeSeptember 17, 2010 at 8:25 pm
    Sterling, 9/6/2010 The difference is I have a life outside of the www and scvtalk (as much as I respect jeff and also Tim who contributes) and don’t trifle with every squabble and tit for tat that goes on in here. I think you’ve nickel & dime’d yourself into an addiction to commenting on blogs. Either start your own with your opinios or get out ant get some sunshine. 1) Quite an accusation for a guy who revels in getting the last word, even at the risk of surrounding motorists. 2) When one protests they “have a life” and advises others to “get out ant (sic) get some sunshine” does that infer GOTV block walking for Prop 8 support? Just checking.
  56. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 11:28 pm
    Your nature has betrayed itself plenty in your rants, I think I’m good with leaving it at that. The transcript of the discussion speaks pretty clearly on the matter at this point, well as clearly as the rants can be deciphered anyhow If you have merely grown up enough to realize the foolishness of typing and driving then something good was accomplished.
  57. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 11:30 pm
    Although I do have to admit that my curiosity is piqued by your bizarre acknowledgment of possessing a tail
  58. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    I changed my mind, I will spend time to check it. Driving and typing don’t mix. Sorry GangFang, do want me to slow down, or check my writing for errors from my phone? I’m more interested in the road but go ahead. I’m really interested at what you have for me today. How far off topic from bad food trucks on walnut street will you go today? You’ve gone the religious rout and talked about my family , whats next. is it worth it to you? What’s your real name by the way? Are you a bit shy to put that out there?
  59. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogSeptember 17, 2010 at 7:07 pm
    “Driving and typing don’t mix.” Thank God you’ve seen the light on that particular topic.
  60. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    I’m not here often anymore but it’s fun to excite the goats every now and then. Thanks for asking.
  61. SterlingSeptember 17, 2010 at 11:54 pm
    That was a good one about the tail I have to admit. Not bad.
  62. GangFangSeptember 18, 2010 at 8:28 am
    Apologies to all for lighting the fuse of the wide eyed and bushy tailed Sterling. Ducks in a barrel kind of a thing, you understand. To keep on topic, I took an informal of my mostly Mormon family. They all love food trucks, Newhall, and specifically Walnut Street.
  63. SterlingSeptember 18, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    You lit my fuse? I think you lit your own fuse in you own barrel of carp.
  64. SterlingSeptember 18, 2010 at 9:53 pm
    Carp– large Old World freshwater bottom-feeding fish introduced into Europe from Asia; inhabits ponds and sluggish streams.
  65. SterlingSeptember 18, 2010 at 9:51 am
    That’s cool GF. I’m glade they enjoy them. It’s the spice of scv. Love the research.
  66. GangFangSeptember 18, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    That’s Gand FAG to you, oh tolerant one.
  67. SterlingSeptember 18, 2010 at 8:28 pm
    Speak for yourself there GF!
  68. GangFangSeptember 18, 2010 at 8:39 pm
    You may want to think about skipping the sacrament tomorrow.
  69. SterlingSeptember 18, 2010 at 9:25 pm
    You know GF, I have to admit that it’s a bit strange to me that after my thoughts, based on truth and experience, not to mention health practitioners first hand knowledge with regard to the type of trucks I referenced, you smugly hid behind your handle and cried foul. Because I didn’t let you skate by while you feebly tried to impale my character with accusations of bigotry and racism, that is now and can always be proven wrong, you think I have the slightest need to think twice about participating in my faiths ordinances? I’m not the blog dog who hides behind a fake name who tries to scorch earth others because they creatively describe the truth. I have no issues between me and my maker who will endow me just fine with the blessings of the bread and water. You now have shown how far into the troff of crap you are in, trying to use our practices to inflict some sense of wrong doing and guilt. Nice try GF, nice try. Sleep well.
  70. GangFangSeptember 18, 2010 at 10:25 pm
    God hates people who don’t use their real names on the internet? I should scheduled a meeting with my Stake President to discuss how my life got so far from the golden rod. So sorry about stepping on that nerve, Mr. King. I will be more careful when I “scorch earth others”. If it’s any consolation to you, if you knew my name – you still wouldn’t know me. And I would say the same things. So let it go. Put your shoulder to the wheel, brother.
  71. SterlingSeptember 18, 2010 at 10:30 pm
    The golden rod? Would that be the Iron Rod? Your name then if I wouldn’t know you. You should fear not – least ye be judged.
  72. GangFangSeptember 18, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    Maybe the iron rod got polished to a golden sheen, what with your manly hands holding it in a righteous grip……. If you really wanna chase after me, lecture me on taco trucks, and call me an immigrant loving fag then here’s my email: gangfanger@gmail.com Go nuts.

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