SCV Talk · Archive
Nine years of the Valley’s town square · 2006–2015
SCV Talk
January 28, 2014· santaclarita.com · SantaClarita.com (SCVTalk 5.0) · Wayback capture

Hidden Valley Talk - the Power behind the Power

For a long time on this blog, I teased and had fun at the expense of several of the more exclusive neighborhoods in the SCV. I don't recall all the slams over the years, but it was all in (mostly) good fun, with some envy and some legitimate criticism tossed in.

The three I picked on most often are listed below:

Placerita Canyon: Home of the Power Posse home owners association. I would joke that the PC Power Posse could retard progress for the entire City just by showing up (or even threatening to show up) at a Council meeting on their horses. For the residents of Placerita are in one of the few areas of the City that's got "special standards" applied to it. For Placerita residents, that means they can live back there like they've always lived, ride horses to their mailboxes, get loads of money from the nearby petroleum wells, and bemoan how Newhall was developing into something new and different. But for transit/transportation geeks like me, and for many generations of Master's College students, the Power Posse was responsible for the lack of sidewalks in front of TMC (and the comical little wooden bridges built in the winter so students wouldn't be swept away) and for retarding the extension of Lyons to Sierra Highway.

West Ranch: I would joke that this is where the faux rich, those lacking loyalty or City 'o Sclarita pride and those clueless about where the real power neighborhoods were in the SCV would end up. In a valley without much of a "native" population, you could find, at least during the boom years, all the nouveau riche SCV class living in West Ranch in brand new houses made out of ticky tacky (not coincidentally West Ranch arose symbiotically with Showtime's Weeds) with Hummer's parked out front. In the space of just a few years it seemed, the all-powerful Flemings (Flemwatch!), Buck McKeon, and Hunt of the Bralys all moved to the West Side or opened up offices there. Newhall Land followed, leaving their iconic & architecturally significant Valencia Blvd HQ for a vague and lifeless office park next to the 5. Sure West Ranch had the Tournament Player's club, which is something something to someone in the golf scene, but those folks were really stuck up: they kicked old Myers out for wearing a t-shirt in 2006 at the height of the real estate boom after all. What did they think, they were the Beverly Hills of the SCV?. Oh and to top it all off, Dave Bossert was the West Side's most prominent advocate & my blogging competition. Yes indeed I felt pretty righteous about condemning the West Ranch neighborhoods back then; great fun!

Sand Canyon: If Placerita was bombastic, backwards, and regressive, and West Ranch was full of phonies or johnny-come-lately SCVers, Sand Canyon was where the real SCV power brokers lived, I theorized. Sure the place smells of horse poop all day and night, and teenagers/motorcyclists routinely turn the beautiful road into an Formula 1 race track, but you couldn't deny the soft power that having a Sand Canyon address represented. The place was rich in SCV history and lore; City Council people called it home. Some houses looked like they were straight out of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. And most of all, you didn't hear them bitch too much like the other neighborhoods. Sand Canyonites were the boss of the SCV, and they knew it. They walked softly, carried a big stick. If there was a La Cosa Nostra of the SCV, the Don would have called Sand Canyon his home and thrown large wedding parties on his sprawling compound, giving rare audiences to the few influential SCVers who warranted some of his time. The place was legit.

Image not recoveredhiddenvalley.png
But now that I've moved out of my lowland, high-density, 7-Eleven adjacent condominium into a for-real single story, detached, single family resident in Calgrove (yard, attic, garage, the whole 9), I've learned I was wrong about the makeup of the SCV's best and most influential neighborhoods.

You see, Sand Canyon may have Robinson Ranch, prized ponies, and a scenic roadway, but Hidden Valley is truly the most powerful and incredible neighborhood in the SCV.

Hidden Valley. If the SCV were a community of nations, Sand Canyon might be your Switzerland, Placerita your France, and West Ranch....Las Vegas?....then Hidden Valley would be a mix of the Hermit Kingdom of North Korea and perhaps some really elite pocket EU country....your Lichentsteins Andorras or Monacos. You practically have to have formal title plus proven SCV bloodlines to pass customs and enter the place.

The place is truly deserving of its name, for until I moved to Calgrove, I didn't really realize what Hidden Valley was. I had thought Hidden Valley was anything past the halfway point on south on Apple, Valley and other streets in the SoLy district. It didn't feel much like a "valley" to me.

And I've lived here for 22 years. And blogged about it.

You know why I couldn't really tell you where Hidden Valley was, why it was such a fuzzy, ill-defined neighborhood in my highly-regimented SCV mental map?

Because that's how the Hidden Valleyites wanted it.

Their success is not in being loud, boastful and arrogant like P-Canyon, nor in flaunting their illusory wealth (West Side), or even in the soft power model deployed so effectively by Sand Canyon...no their success lies in the fact that they've largely disappeared as a place in the SCV. They are a valley apart.

Hidden Valley.

Consider how powerful this place is:

  • Image not recoveredhiddenvalley2.png
    Only neighborhood in the SCV with public roads going through it that are gated off from the public. In two places. I hadn't realized this until I dared to walk through this amazing place, but yes: there are actually two gates blocking the lowlifes from entering: the one at the end of Valley and a smaller, black fence (Checkpoint Charlie anyone?) blocking access on the west end of Maple.
  • There are hidden parks, scenic walkways, and even (it's rumored) an off-leash dog park back here. All I know is I don't have the key to the locked park, which looks like it's just about the most amazing park area in all of SClarita. Towsley x 10. Hart Park -including Hart's castle- a flea-ridden dump in comparison. Hell, they probably have a lake, yacht club and horse racing track hidden somewhere back here. You see, Hidden Valleyites never complain about a lack of public parks; no, instead, they just build their own, put an impregnable fence around it, and lock it down tight, such that even faux elitists like me, living the good life in Calgrove (yet another illusion, a spell even, they've cast), can't get in. Well played Hidden Valley, well played. Respect+++
  • When the City goes and re-paints Calgrove from a four lane 50 mph highway into a much gentler two lane road with ample space for bikes, do you see Hidden Valleyites storm the gates of City Hall, complaining hypocritically that the restripe slows them down too much yet people speed all the time on Calgrove ( looking at you Decooro!)?  Nope, you never hear HIdden Valley complain like that because 1) it's not becoming of them, and 2) theirs is a soft, quiet but extremely lethal revenge. For Hidden Valley, revenge is a dish best served secretly, out of public view. If you're unfortunate enough to land in their crosshairs though, you'll know it: when the HV goons descend on you, you'll know why, and you'll wonder why you didn't respect them more as you sleep with the fishes. 
  • The Hidden Valley Way, as I'm learning, isn't well known among the SCV cognoscenti because the first rule is you don't talk about the HIdden Valley Way, and the second rule is that well, you're not going to live long if you do.
  • Newhall's Main Street back-in parking? A Hidden Valley joke on the rest of us. Mayo Hospital expansion? A result of a behind-the-scenes battle between Valencia and Hidden Valley; you don't see Valencia messing with HV anymore after that. Metrolink Holiday Toy Train cancellation? Hidden Valley was tired of the train air horns blowing all the time. Buck McKeon's retirement? That too a result of Hidden Valley. 

So my hat's off to the Hidden Valley Homeowner Association or whatever supra-regional organization, ultra-secret secret society (yes I've witnessed some strange handshakes & rituals back here) that has built this amazing place. Hidden Valley got it, they don't flaunt it, and they don't want anyone to know about it either. 


Hidden Valley Talk - the Power behind the Power

Comments (12)

  1. TalkToMissVTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 2:02 pm
    we've always heard it called and referred to this area as Happy Valley, not Hidden Valley, so Im confused. Or is Hidden Valley what falls behind the gates that are adjacent to Happy Valley?
  2. Leon WordenTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
    Yes, they're 2 different places ... Happy Valley is accessed off of Lyons; Hidden Valley is accessed off of Calgrove
  3. Ex-EverywhereTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
    SClarita... is that Santa Clarita's username? I think that's badass.
  4. SamTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 6:31 pm
    How is that walk score in Hidden Valley?
  5. MikeTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 6:43 pm
    #sickburn
  6. Perry R SmithTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 6:48 pm
    The real power behind the power, behind the power http://www.moneysavingmadness.com/wp-conte
  7. Lori RTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 7:04 pm
    I really like walking through Hidden Valley. Sure, the hills are good cardio, but the isolation, and the views....it is like I am far far away from Lyons, Wiley and the I-5....even tho all is within easy walking distance.
  8. ToddTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 9:36 pm
    Forget Hidden Valley ... I wanna know who's so baller that he gets to live up at the end of Wildwood Canyon, a good full mile past the end of the public road? https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@34.357 https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@34.355 and even what appear to be servant quarters! https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@34.356
  9. ToddTuesday, January 28th, 2014 at 9:49 pm
    Nevermind. Power of google, now I know. Some inventors, some CEOs of industry, and of media. OK good to know. Carry on!
  10. SamSaturday, February 1st, 2014 at 8:40 pm
    The owner of Frontier Toyota lives there. http://losangeles.blockshopper.com/propert
  11. NormThursday, January 30th, 2014 at 9:46 am
    The first link was a player for the Dodger in the 90s, not sure if he is still there. And the last link is Mr. Green's house. Owner of Green Landscape Nursery at Cinema Dr and Bouquet. Go Hidden Valley! The gates were voted into place by The Oaks HOA which is adjacent to Hidden Valley.
  12. Bill ReynoldsThursday, January 30th, 2014 at 6:27 am
    Who didn't see it coming that Master Blogger Jeffrey would move up to suburban living once a child arrived on the scene? Congratulations and welcome to my world....

Preserved as part of the SCV Talk Archive. Text is presented as originally published; presentation has been standardised for readability. The original capture is available at the Internet Archive.

Support