Rabbit Crushing Tires

By Jeff — Jeff Wilson

Fred, a sometimes SCVTalk reader and evangelical blogger/Master’s College alum, tells us why Prop 23 (the one that would have repealed AB 32) was the most important proposition on the ballot last week:

I like my electricity. I like my air conditioning. I like my suburban sprawl. I like my giant box stores and malls. I want to have the freedom to drive a big, gas guzzling truck with deer blinding lights and big, knobby, rabbit crushing tires if I so choose. I don’t want to put solar panels on my house and I don’t want to have to live like I am in Central Africa using cow dung for fuel to cook my food and a car battery to power my fluorescent bulbs for a couple of hours in the evening. And I certainly don’t want to live in some high density dystopian hellscape governed by ugly, short haired, blandly dressed, environmental women bureaucrats. So I am voting YES on Prop. 23.

Deep breath. HAHAHAHA. Vote yes on Prop 23 to fight the tyranny of ugly environmental women (I would have added the word “frumpy” as well). That’s a pretty funny rant.

And totally representative of a certain demographic of SCV male, (I call them the Stomper Truck Class) whose idea of a good weekend involves taking their Tonka trucks up to Rowher flats and doing something like this:

Mmmmm. Fun.

Unfortunately for Fred, the tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, Hollywood-loving left wing people of California voted Prop 23 down, so I guess the clock is ticking for his lifestyle.

I extend Fred a personal invitation to visit my high density dystopian Newhall hellscape so he can see what life will soon be like after we confiscate his stomper truck and force him to install solar panels on his McMansion.

Comments (36)

drive66November 8, 2010 at 11:58 am

This is from an unknown source, but it looks like you can put you smugness to rest for a while! Has the popping of Champagne corks been premature? We’re referring to the defeat of Proposition 23, which has been hailed as the game-winning home run for California’s climate change law. But celebrations have turned to fears about the impact of what some have called its “evil twin” – Prop. 26, which passed Tuesday. That’s the initiative relabeling environmental mitigation and other fees as taxes, requiring the virtually impossible to get two-thirds vote, thus starving state and local treasuries even further…

damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 11:59 am

Fred Butler is not a true conservative, a true consertiave would rather error on the side of caution then act wreckless. His message is that we should continue our addiction to oil instead of finding alternatives that will allow America to keep its way of life. He wants to keep riding the oil train till it runs out of tracks… then what? He worships in the cult of the republican party. Democrats are no better… they listen to these frumpy environmentalist who preach their exagerated cultic environmental teachings and only put the mass further from making the changes. The answer to this problem is at our finger tips, but it is going to take an attitude adjustment that I don’t think anyone is willing to make and so we continue.

Jim FarleyNovember 8, 2010 at 12:30 pm

Right on Fred! A true lover of liberty. Energy in all it’s forms needs to be abundant and cheap. Oil and natural gas are currently the most abundant fuels therefore the most economically viable. When other forms of energy become practical and cheap we will go to them too. AB32 is a job killer that will do nothing to help the environment.

damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 4:44 pm

“needs to be abundant and cheap” This is an ideal one that is slipping away as oil becomes harder and harder to get. You can be one of the fools like Fred who ignores this and will eventually be sitting their with his “gas guzzling” truck with no gas for it to guzzle. I am sure he can sit in it and make motor sounds with his mouth. The conservative and prudent thing to do would be insisting that we find “abundant and cheap” energy in new ways. Republicans are like people in the 19th century rejecting this idea of a horseless carriage when their horse carriage has been doing just fine! What…? we have “abundant and cheap” oats and hay! You do have “liberty” to be reckless just don’t call yourself conservative because recklessness is the opposite of conservative. A true conservative person would see that our oil resources are not infinite just because the earth is large. A prudent people would be looking for new ways to keep our “gas guzzling” truck running. This childish rant of Fred is not conservative and has nothing to do with liberty. It only shows how far out of touch he is with reality, but hey he also believes in a talking snake.

Jim FarleyNovember 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm

How about nuclear for electricity? I think even Obama is on board with that one.

Fred ButlerNovember 8, 2010 at 7:38 pm

Damaged mind writes, This is an ideal one that is slipping away as oil becomes harder and harder to get. Oil is being located more and more in multiple locations. It is not hard to get, we have the technology. We just have ridiculous regulations that prevent us from using up these natural resources. Nuclear is also an awesome option, but again, regulations and the paranoia of anti-nuke people prevent us from investing in it as a viable resource.

DamageincNovember 8, 2010 at 9:23 pm

Oil being located does not change the fact it is a none renewable resource. And really… Ridiculous regulations? Apparently you didn’t watch the news about this little oil spill problem we had… drill baby drill? I would rather see grow, baby grow. Nuclear energy isn’t bad except for our Governments inability to put safety and solid regulations till after something major happens that and the nuclear waste that must be disposed of… They have plans to bury it in a mountain in Nevada. Now if only there were a way to turn that into energy. That is actually being worked on but that would require education and science… which if I am not mistaken is not on the list of Republican priorities now is it?

Josh PremakoNovember 8, 2010 at 12:28 pm

I mean…..really? How deeply in his cheek is his tongue planted? Sure, it’s great to have the freedoms we have. It doesn’t mean we should be indulging them to the excesses our nation, by and large, has. Conservation, stewardship of and caring for the planet does not equal living “like I am in Central Africa.” Listen, I’m a TMC alum as well, and I do not approve FB’s message. But, I celebrate his freedom to speak freely.

SFC PerezNovember 8, 2010 at 12:33 pm

Not in attempt to judge, but what I saw as quote illustrated the extremes we see daily. Either you are a left wing or right wing nutjob who is hellbent on forcing your opinion on others and forcing their decisions. And while most of those decisions should be voluntary, we in such a great Nation need to accept responsibility to make things better for each other. Wasting gasoline by driving a guzzler is insane when the technology exists to eliminate it. There are even huge hybrid SUV and trucks. Why not limit your carbon footprint? Why not recycle? Its not a God given right as an American that I can just do whatever I want just because the opportunity exists. I first learned the high level of recycling I still do to this day while stationed at Fort Hood TX back in the early 90′s. I dont see how difficult it is to make some effort to help the environment and those around me. Just my 2 cents.

damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 4:46 pm

Some recycling is BS.

SFC PerezNovember 8, 2010 at 7:05 pm

Paper, glass, plastic, oil, etc. are not BS. The military has been recycling for decades, why is it the civilian sector is so slow to catch on? Back in wonderful Chicago, they made a change years ago where we had to buy garbage stickers for each can we put on the curb. The recycling bin was free thus promoting an incentive for the average Joe to think about not just putting everything in the dump. They also built a beautiful course on a land dump creating less of carbon footprint again.

DamageincNovember 8, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Plastic, Paper cost most energy to recycle then to just create a new product. Why do you think recycled paper cost MORE then new paper? We have more trees then we did 90 years ago… we have tree farms. And no one would recycle plastics if it wasn’t for CRV. Oil is used to make other products so is Glass and Metals. They are worth recycling because they do save money. The recycling Bin is not free… and neither is the service. Every resident is charged for the recycling programs regardless of whether they do it or not and it still costs cities MILLIONS of dollars. Land Fills don’t scare me and they shouldn’t you… we turn them into parks.

SFC PerezNovember 9, 2010 at 10:56 am

Interesting info on the cost of recycling both monetary and energy. The issue to me is not always a financial one but one of what is right and what is wrong. Landfills arent always a scare if handled properly. Whats scary are the landfills at sea and other unmonitored sites outside of the US. I am just trying to do my part as a consumer and the manufacturers and recyclers need to up their part and attempt to make it less costly and of a burden, i.e. packaging that is biodegradable.

DamageincNovember 10, 2010 at 8:26 am

Much of recycling helps people feel good. That is one of the only benefits regardless of the material. I am not hating on recycling only saying some of it is feel good BS. But what in this world doesn’t have some BS mixed in? Look at environmentalism some is legit some is crap.

SFC PerezNovember 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm

I agree but I would really want to look in depth at the cost analysis in recycling. Sometimes costs are added in which are frivilous, i.e. when an EMT responds to an accident, why do they calculate the cost of his salary when the reality is he was being paid if you had the accident or not.

SFC PerezNovember 9, 2010 at 10:57 am

And on an interesting note, I was at LA Air Force Base this morning and saw a bin where you could recycle your batteries by type.

DamageincNovember 10, 2010 at 8:27 am

Batteries are more keeping unatural toxic chemicals out of the environment

SFC PerezNovember 10, 2010 at 11:21 pm

So how much of batteries can be recycled if any? I know that recycling computers and other electronics is more about keeping us from becoming like China and their toxic dumps.

IHeartSCVNovember 8, 2010 at 2:23 pm

RE: Rabbit Crushing Tires 1. “Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? Yet not one of them shall fall on the ground without your Father.” (Matthew 10:29) He may also have His eyes on the rabbits, too, so be hesitant to crush God’s creatures just for the sake of crushing. :’-( 2. “Rabbit crushing” needs a hyphen.

MikeNovember 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm

Hyphen, shmyphen. He wants a big truck but he offsets this by employing a rabbit to crush tires, which are in turn re-used as a playground surface.

MikeNovember 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm

RIP TGIF trivia, BTW.

IHeartSCVNovember 8, 2010 at 4:30 pm

RE: Rabbit–that’s so nice! Were it that all old tires were crushed by rabbits and made into playground surfaces. RE: Trivia– :-/. It’s nicer to trivia in SCV as some of the teams in LA proper are so good it’s no fun to play against them. I still believe there should be an SCV-trivia-only event of sorts. The title of who knows SCV best–historical and present, cultural and scientific, intra-City and extra-City–has never been satisfactorily resolved.

Fred ButlerNovember 8, 2010 at 4:59 pm

1). “Rise Peter, kill and eat” (Acts 10:13That includes rabbits. 2). Thanks for the tip, I promise to do better next time.

DamageincNovember 11, 2010 at 7:19 pm

So you eat road kill? I like eating rabbit… I don’t like killing rabbits just because I can… having dominion doesn’t mean to rape and pillage the earth that god has created now does it FRED? Frankly, I find you a disgrace to good, responsible Christians. I also think you are carnal. Nothing you do on this site nor your blog brings honor or glory to the God you claim to serve. You provoke anger in people you are supposed to be reaching out to… all for your own amusement. Frankly sir, if people don’t go to church because of you and they die and go to hell, who will God hold responsible? Their blood will be on your hands. God is not in anything you do. You are full of pride and arrogance, and if you know your bible you would know that pride was the sin of Sodom. The meek will inherit the earth. If you really believe in the God of the Bible, I suggest you fall on your face, repent, humble yourself and ask for his forgiveness.

DonRickettsNovember 8, 2010 at 2:47 pm

I like my electricity. I like my air conditioning. I did put solar panels up. I cook my food, burn my fluorescent and incandescent bulbs, and supply all of our electrical needs from the panels. I don’t have to conserve, and I don’t live in something akin to the back country of central Africa (though there are some very lovely spots there). I’m kind of governed by her, but my wife is not an ugly, short haired, blandly dressed, environmental women bureaucrat. So there!

SFC PerezNovember 8, 2010 at 7:08 pm

I applaud you Mr Ricketts for taking those steps )

ScottENovember 8, 2010 at 3:43 pm

We call’em “Dude-Bros” up in Nawth Valenchuh… Long as ya eat whut ya crush, S’OK with me. Kill ta eat … Eat ta kill!

cashNovember 8, 2010 at 3:49 pm

And without a helmet! BTW, Mr. Farley is correct about natural gas reserves and at it current price of $3.00 and change per mcf, solar and wind cannot compete without huge taxpayers subside.

damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 4:48 pm

They chemicals they are using to refract the natural gas is killing the ground waters. Bio-Diesal & Bio-Matter makes the most sense.

ReaderMamaNovember 8, 2010 at 3:51 pm

My wish is to one day see one of those big, gas guzzling trucks run into a light post while trying to run down a rabbit (or squirrel). As for the rest of it, the economic realities will be brought home soon enough. Gas will get to $4.00 a gallon again and electricity rates will rise, whether or not Prop 23 is implemented.

Fred ButlerNovember 8, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Thanks for the love Jeff. I genuinely was thinking about you when I wrote that knowing you would like it. BtW, I am not, nor ever have been, a TMC alumni. I attended TMS, the seminary down in Sun Valley. Wife graduated TMC, I went to ASU in Arkansas. I also have never owned, nor would I ever own, a 4×4 truck.

NickelDimeNovember 8, 2010 at 8:53 pm

Guzzling gas borne of crude purchased from Venezuela and the Middle East is my God Given Right, Right?! Trailer for a must-watch movie.

DamageincNovember 8, 2010 at 9:31 pm

Check out Fuel and Gasland

Brenda ButlerNovember 11, 2010 at 9:14 am

Looks like I’m a little late to the chat… Go hubby! but I WOULD LIKE to own a 4 x 4, to go mud wompin’ with the boys! Thankfully, 3 of 4 has already said he wants one and will take me out one day. By the way, rabbit is very tasty (especially in Italy). Just curious about some thoughts about the European model of Nuclear power – sure is working for them! Many “convictions” are built on emotion/feelings and not facts; as the Nuclear Power issue and some recycling illustrate. Give a Listen: http://www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/books/2009/02/16/is-nuclear-power-safe-gwyneth-cravens-and-the-power-to-change-the-world

damageincNovember 12, 2010 at 11:11 am

I think we will stop listening to people who were chanting Drill baby Drill back in 2008…

damageincNovember 12, 2010 at 11:11 am

drill baby drill = spill baby spill

drive66November 8, 2010 at 11:58 am
This is from an unknown source, but it looks like you can put you smugness to rest for a while! Has the popping of Champagne corks been premature? We’re referring to the defeat of Proposition 23, which has been hailed as the game-winning home run for California’s climate change law. But celebrations have turned to fears about the impact of what some have called its “evil twin” – Prop. 26, which passed Tuesday. That’s the initiative relabeling environmental mitigation and other fees as taxes, requiring the virtually impossible to get two-thirds vote, thus starving state and local treasuries even further…
damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 11:59 am
Fred Butler is not a true conservative, a true consertiave would rather error on the side of caution then act wreckless. His message is that we should continue our addiction to oil instead of finding alternatives that will allow America to keep its way of life. He wants to keep riding the oil train till it runs out of tracks… then what? He worships in the cult of the republican party. Democrats are no better… they listen to these frumpy environmentalist who preach their exagerated cultic environmental teachings and only put the mass further from making the changes. The answer to this problem is at our finger tips, but it is going to take an attitude adjustment that I don’t think anyone is willing to make and so we continue.
Jim FarleyNovember 8, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Right on Fred! A true lover of liberty. Energy in all it’s forms needs to be abundant and cheap. Oil and natural gas are currently the most abundant fuels therefore the most economically viable. When other forms of energy become practical and cheap we will go to them too. AB32 is a job killer that will do nothing to help the environment.
damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 4:44 pm
“needs to be abundant and cheap” This is an ideal one that is slipping away as oil becomes harder and harder to get. You can be one of the fools like Fred who ignores this and will eventually be sitting their with his “gas guzzling” truck with no gas for it to guzzle. I am sure he can sit in it and make motor sounds with his mouth. The conservative and prudent thing to do would be insisting that we find “abundant and cheap” energy in new ways. Republicans are like people in the 19th century rejecting this idea of a horseless carriage when their horse carriage has been doing just fine! What…? we have “abundant and cheap” oats and hay! You do have “liberty” to be reckless just don’t call yourself conservative because recklessness is the opposite of conservative. A true conservative person would see that our oil resources are not infinite just because the earth is large. A prudent people would be looking for new ways to keep our “gas guzzling” truck running. This childish rant of Fred is not conservative and has nothing to do with liberty. It only shows how far out of touch he is with reality, but hey he also believes in a talking snake.
Jim FarleyNovember 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm
How about nuclear for electricity? I think even Obama is on board with that one.
Fred ButlerNovember 8, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Damaged mind writes, This is an ideal one that is slipping away as oil becomes harder and harder to get. Oil is being located more and more in multiple locations. It is not hard to get, we have the technology. We just have ridiculous regulations that prevent us from using up these natural resources. Nuclear is also an awesome option, but again, regulations and the paranoia of anti-nuke people prevent us from investing in it as a viable resource.
DamageincNovember 8, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Oil being located does not change the fact it is a none renewable resource. And really… Ridiculous regulations? Apparently you didn’t watch the news about this little oil spill problem we had… drill baby drill? I would rather see grow, baby grow. Nuclear energy isn’t bad except for our Governments inability to put safety and solid regulations till after something major happens that and the nuclear waste that must be disposed of… They have plans to bury it in a mountain in Nevada. Now if only there were a way to turn that into energy. That is actually being worked on but that would require education and science… which if I am not mistaken is not on the list of Republican priorities now is it?
Josh PremakoNovember 8, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I mean…..really? How deeply in his cheek is his tongue planted? Sure, it’s great to have the freedoms we have. It doesn’t mean we should be indulging them to the excesses our nation, by and large, has. Conservation, stewardship of and caring for the planet does not equal living “like I am in Central Africa.” Listen, I’m a TMC alum as well, and I do not approve FB’s message. But, I celebrate his freedom to speak freely.
SFC PerezNovember 8, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Not in attempt to judge, but what I saw as quote illustrated the extremes we see daily. Either you are a left wing or right wing nutjob who is hellbent on forcing your opinion on others and forcing their decisions. And while most of those decisions should be voluntary, we in such a great Nation need to accept responsibility to make things better for each other. Wasting gasoline by driving a guzzler is insane when the technology exists to eliminate it. There are even huge hybrid SUV and trucks. Why not limit your carbon footprint? Why not recycle? Its not a God given right as an American that I can just do whatever I want just because the opportunity exists. I first learned the high level of recycling I still do to this day while stationed at Fort Hood TX back in the early 90′s. I dont see how difficult it is to make some effort to help the environment and those around me. Just my 2 cents.
damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Some recycling is BS.
SFC PerezNovember 8, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Paper, glass, plastic, oil, etc. are not BS. The military has been recycling for decades, why is it the civilian sector is so slow to catch on? Back in wonderful Chicago, they made a change years ago where we had to buy garbage stickers for each can we put on the curb. The recycling bin was free thus promoting an incentive for the average Joe to think about not just putting everything in the dump. They also built a beautiful course on a land dump creating less of carbon footprint again.
DamageincNovember 8, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Plastic, Paper cost most energy to recycle then to just create a new product. Why do you think recycled paper cost MORE then new paper? We have more trees then we did 90 years ago… we have tree farms. And no one would recycle plastics if it wasn’t for CRV. Oil is used to make other products so is Glass and Metals. They are worth recycling because they do save money. The recycling Bin is not free… and neither is the service. Every resident is charged for the recycling programs regardless of whether they do it or not and it still costs cities MILLIONS of dollars. Land Fills don’t scare me and they shouldn’t you… we turn them into parks.
SFC PerezNovember 9, 2010 at 10:56 am
Interesting info on the cost of recycling both monetary and energy. The issue to me is not always a financial one but one of what is right and what is wrong. Landfills arent always a scare if handled properly. Whats scary are the landfills at sea and other unmonitored sites outside of the US. I am just trying to do my part as a consumer and the manufacturers and recyclers need to up their part and attempt to make it less costly and of a burden, i.e. packaging that is biodegradable.
DamageincNovember 10, 2010 at 8:26 am
Much of recycling helps people feel good. That is one of the only benefits regardless of the material. I am not hating on recycling only saying some of it is feel good BS. But what in this world doesn’t have some BS mixed in? Look at environmentalism some is legit some is crap.
SFC PerezNovember 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm
I agree but I would really want to look in depth at the cost analysis in recycling. Sometimes costs are added in which are frivilous, i.e. when an EMT responds to an accident, why do they calculate the cost of his salary when the reality is he was being paid if you had the accident or not.
SFC PerezNovember 9, 2010 at 10:57 am
And on an interesting note, I was at LA Air Force Base this morning and saw a bin where you could recycle your batteries by type.
DamageincNovember 10, 2010 at 8:27 am
Batteries are more keeping unatural toxic chemicals out of the environment
SFC PerezNovember 10, 2010 at 11:21 pm
So how much of batteries can be recycled if any? I know that recycling computers and other electronics is more about keeping us from becoming like China and their toxic dumps.
IHeartSCVNovember 8, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: Rabbit Crushing Tires 1. “Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? Yet not one of them shall fall on the ground without your Father.” (Matthew 10:29) He may also have His eyes on the rabbits, too, so be hesitant to crush God’s creatures just for the sake of crushing. :’-( 2. “Rabbit crushing” needs a hyphen.
MikeNovember 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Hyphen, shmyphen. He wants a big truck but he offsets this by employing a rabbit to crush tires, which are in turn re-used as a playground surface.
MikeNovember 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RIP TGIF trivia, BTW.
IHeartSCVNovember 8, 2010 at 4:30 pm
RE: Rabbit–that’s so nice! Were it that all old tires were crushed by rabbits and made into playground surfaces. RE: Trivia– :-/. It’s nicer to trivia in SCV as some of the teams in LA proper are so good it’s no fun to play against them. I still believe there should be an SCV-trivia-only event of sorts. The title of who knows SCV best–historical and present, cultural and scientific, intra-City and extra-City–has never been satisfactorily resolved.
Fred ButlerNovember 8, 2010 at 4:59 pm
1). “Rise Peter, kill and eat” (Acts 10:13That includes rabbits. 2). Thanks for the tip, I promise to do better next time.
DamageincNovember 11, 2010 at 7:19 pm
So you eat road kill? I like eating rabbit… I don’t like killing rabbits just because I can… having dominion doesn’t mean to rape and pillage the earth that god has created now does it FRED? Frankly, I find you a disgrace to good, responsible Christians. I also think you are carnal. Nothing you do on this site nor your blog brings honor or glory to the God you claim to serve. You provoke anger in people you are supposed to be reaching out to… all for your own amusement. Frankly sir, if people don’t go to church because of you and they die and go to hell, who will God hold responsible? Their blood will be on your hands. God is not in anything you do. You are full of pride and arrogance, and if you know your bible you would know that pride was the sin of Sodom. The meek will inherit the earth. If you really believe in the God of the Bible, I suggest you fall on your face, repent, humble yourself and ask for his forgiveness.
DonRickettsNovember 8, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I like my electricity. I like my air conditioning. I did put solar panels up. I cook my food, burn my fluorescent and incandescent bulbs, and supply all of our electrical needs from the panels. I don’t have to conserve, and I don’t live in something akin to the back country of central Africa (though there are some very lovely spots there). I’m kind of governed by her, but my wife is not an ugly, short haired, blandly dressed, environmental women bureaucrat. So there!
SFC PerezNovember 8, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I applaud you Mr Ricketts for taking those steps )
ScottENovember 8, 2010 at 3:43 pm
We call’em “Dude-Bros” up in Nawth Valenchuh… Long as ya eat whut ya crush, S’OK with me. Kill ta eat … Eat ta kill!
cashNovember 8, 2010 at 3:49 pm
And without a helmet! BTW, Mr. Farley is correct about natural gas reserves and at it current price of $3.00 and change per mcf, solar and wind cannot compete without huge taxpayers subside.
damageincNovember 8, 2010 at 4:48 pm
They chemicals they are using to refract the natural gas is killing the ground waters. Bio-Diesal & Bio-Matter makes the most sense.
ReaderMamaNovember 8, 2010 at 3:51 pm
My wish is to one day see one of those big, gas guzzling trucks run into a light post while trying to run down a rabbit (or squirrel). As for the rest of it, the economic realities will be brought home soon enough. Gas will get to $4.00 a gallon again and electricity rates will rise, whether or not Prop 23 is implemented.
Fred ButlerNovember 8, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Thanks for the love Jeff. I genuinely was thinking about you when I wrote that knowing you would like it. BtW, I am not, nor ever have been, a TMC alumni. I attended TMS, the seminary down in Sun Valley. Wife graduated TMC, I went to ASU in Arkansas. I also have never owned, nor would I ever own, a 4×4 truck.
NickelDimeNovember 8, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Guzzling gas borne of crude purchased from Venezuela and the Middle East is my God Given Right, Right?! Trailer for a must-watch movie.
DamageincNovember 8, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Check out Fuel and Gasland
Brenda ButlerNovember 11, 2010 at 9:14 am
Looks like I’m a little late to the chat… Go hubby! but I WOULD LIKE to own a 4 x 4, to go mud wompin’ with the boys! Thankfully, 3 of 4 has already said he wants one and will take me out one day. By the way, rabbit is very tasty (especially in Italy). Just curious about some thoughts about the European model of Nuclear power – sure is working for them! Many “convictions” are built on emotion/feelings and not facts; as the Nuclear Power issue and some recycling illustrate. Give a Listen: http://www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/books/2009/02/16/is-nuclear-power-safe-gwyneth-cravens-and-the-power-to-change-the-world
damageincNovember 12, 2010 at 11:11 am
I think we will stop listening to people who were chanting Drill baby Drill back in 2008…
damageincNovember 12, 2010 at 11:11 am
drill baby drill = spill baby spill