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November 29, 2010 – Daily Brief

By Jeff — Jeff Wilson

  • Speeding CHP officer crashes into family’s SUV, injuring the mother inside badly on Sunday night. The officer’s actions are under investigation; he was doing 90mph on the 5 near Lyons when he collided with the SUV DAILY NEWS
  • The 20 something driver who ran a red light at Decoro & Hillsborough Parkway on Friday slamming into a minivan and injuring a mother and her son, has died. Authorities haven’t released his name and aren’t sure if alcohol played a part in the crash. SIGNAL, LA TIMES
  • The long legal saga of the Whittaker Bermite property (the donut hole in the center of the city) has another chapter: the City and a real estate company that owned the land have settled a lawsuit that could lead to the City eventually having 1,000 acres of “clean prime real estate” SIGNAL
  • Micheal Dean Stephens, the murderer of Josh Pipho, will be sentenced this week the Signal says
  • Food truck events are becoming very common in the SCV. COC’s “Street Festival” featured four of them SIGNAL
  • Moving obituary of Sgt. Ian D. Gelig, the Stevenson Ranch soldier who died in Afghanistan back in March. LA TIMES
  • Not a Ferry Fan’s clips from last week’s Council meeting. Unsurprisingly the topic is the library takeover YOU TUBE
  • Retailers are feeling encouraged after Black Friday and a solid weekend of shopping, but spending at stores isn’t quite what it was in the mid 2000s AP. Meanwhile, Westfield rolls out a phone App with parking lot information, mall layout and store directories. DAILY NEWS
  • And of course today is Cyber Monday in case you missed out on the brick ‘n mortar deals SIGNAL
  • Buck McKeon worried that if spending on the military isn’t increased, America may fight wars with a “bow and arrow.” But he hopes not. BLOOMBERG
  • Meanwhile, McKeon is stuck between a rock and a hard place as the Republicans try to eliminate earmarks from the federal budget. Some $3 billion in earmarks were spent in Southern California this year on defense projects LA TIMES
  • Autism blog mentions SCV’s autistic children and the Signal in a post about autism and the media “The simple fact that children like this weren’t around 25 years ago should have everyone demanding to know why.” BLOG
  • Outrage over the TSA’s new security policies predictably blew up the Signal LTE section last week. Like this one. The New York Times takes a look at the spectacle and finds there wasn’t actually much that changed NYT
  • John Boston’s Time Ranger a real gem this week. Find out how some enterprising SCVers back in the 50s set up their own television transmitter, read about a grisly 1972 triple murder, and what’s the SCV got to do with the old tv show Dallas? JOHN BOSTON
  • Congrats to Dave Bossert for five years of the West Ranch Beacon. He toots his own horn quite a bit in this celebratory post but reveals that Count Sauguslavsky, the greatest SCV columnist of all time, will soon write for the Beacon. WRB
  • Tim Myers mounrs over what was once one of the top high school football leagues in the state: Foothill. 2003 is the turning point according to Myers SIGNAL
  • The good people behind the Santa Clarita homeless shelter get a shout out from the Signal as cold weather bears down on the SCV SIGNAL

Oh noes! Leslie Nielsen has died. RIP

Comments (70)

  1. ScottNovember 29, 2010 at 9:16 am
    Happy birthday Jeff!
  2. Alan FerdmanNovember 29, 2010 at 9:25 am
    OK. Bermite lawsuits are settled. Now, if I read the Signal article correctly, the city will pay $25.3 million of which $20 million has already been borrowed. That leaves an additional $5.3 million and the city may pick up a $13 million option on additional land. That represents another $18.3 million we do not have. So here is the question. Where is the money going to come from? PS Happy Birthday Jeff
  3. Lori RivasNovember 29, 2010 at 10:11 am
    I’ve read Pulskamp’s responses to citizen questions, for emails dated mid-August to the end of September, and almost every single response was a form letter, not necessarily addressing the citizen’s questions. It was only when a citizen then followed up with an additional emaill, calling Pulskamp on his form letter, that a more personal response was given, and, even then, Pulskamp’s answers were vague and, in one instance, he flat out stated he did not have an answer, and would need to look into the question.
  4. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 10:20 am
    Heart – No, I doubt she’s evil incarnate. She’s Ruth Benell incarnate. Albeit less effective.
  5. Lori RivasNovember 29, 2010 at 10:48 am
    Watched your 2008 SCVTV link from the other thread – I am not impressed. No children’s storytime at the Newhall library since 2008? That is not true. Newhall library has consistently had children’s storytime, every week, for all the years that I have lived in Newhall. Even when the library was between children’s librarians, another member of the staff would host the storytime. Newhall library even hosts weekly summer children’s programs. In fact, I just called the Newhall library right now, to verify, and there is a storytime happening right now, as I type! The community survey referenced mentioned gathering information from homeschoolers and the Boys and Girls Club, among other avenues. I am part of several homeschool groups, and have been part of a very large and active group, and have never heard of a city survey for the libraries. In addition, we were involved in the Boys and Girls Club from about 2006-2008 — I even taught some classes there — and, again, I never heard of this survey. Maybe the City surveyed the Boys and Girls Club staff?
  6. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 10:53 am
    Hi Lori – Well if you’re saying the county library person didn’t know what she was talking about, I don’t know what to say. I thought she was pretty sharp, and she made a positive impression on me. I’m sure children’s reading programs will be high on the list for the new library committee. As for the surveys, like I said, if you want to see them, you could probably ask the city for copies or summaries.
  7. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 10:31 am
    Since the other thread is now closed I will respond here: @Leon after I responded to Lori last night I remembered that I attended many charettes (sp?) and meetings regarding Newhall Redevelopment. I was interested not only because of the potential improvements for Newhall but also because I believe Canyon Country also needs some redevelopment help and wanted to understand the process. I actually spoke with Mr. Polizoides about the Newhall Library among other things at those public meetings as I recall. @ Gangfang NOTHING, someone like you who posts exclusively to belittle and insult without provocation, has ANY value to me. You are among those that I would ban from this site permanently because of your constant nastiness.
  8. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 10:39 am
    Berta – I’ve been advocating for redevelopment in Canyon Country (although perhaps not the same type of redevelopment mechanism that’s being used in Newhall) for well over a decade. Talk about stuff that falls on deaf ears! Newhall is easy & formulaic because of its traditional CBD Main Street configuration. Canyon Country is a lot harder and there are no simple answers. It’ll be a big challenge for the next couple of decades. I’d be interested in seeing an economic analysis of the section of Soledad between Camp Plenty and Whites today, with its Big Lots etc., and compare it to the numbers (if there are any) from back in the day when H&P and other higher-end retail were there.
  9. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 10:59 am
    @Leon that particular shopping center has too many vacancies. It is a shame because the owners put a lot of money into upgrading it within the last few years. Most of the stores left now are “low end”. Besides Big Lots, Dollar Tree, Radio Shack, and TJ Maxx we now have a Sabor Latino Market going in. This despite other supermarkets, Food 4 Less and Ralph’s, long established right across the street so we will see how long the new one lasts. More shopping carts left on the streets, oh goodie. Almost all of the mom & pop stores, Eugenia’s, the tile store, the antique store, the barbecue place, etc are GONE. I believe Canyon Country definitely needs economic development help but understand that these are tough economic times for everybody.
  10. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 11:37 am
    The current Newhall redevelopment process started way back in 1994/95 with a high-priced consultant — a darned GOOD one — and a year-long public participation process where the whole community weighed in. (Anywhere from 150 to 300 people per meeting, which is a phenomenal turnout for that sort of thing). It included a number of economic analyses, wish lists, financing plans, etc. Canyon Country might be ripe for the same type of process. We might be able to do some quick fixes, but I think a long-term plan and some forward-thinking solutions are in order.
  11. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 11:50 am
    @Leon, agreed. These are the kinds of issues the Canyon Country Advisory Committee founding members, like me, used to take leadership roles in advising City Staff and Council. We identified and expressed as a united front our concerns, needs, wants, etc. just as we did with our branch library. The City listened to us the County blew us off. We participated if we chose to and were involved in coming up with solutions, not just complaining or slamming the City. Ah but for days gone by…
  12. cashNovember 29, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    How would dumping taxpayer dollars into Canyon Country help the problem that you have outlined? The millions spent in Downtown Newhall has done very little to improve anything but the streetscape. It is unfortunate in many ways, but DTN has become a hang out for the indegent.
  13. Need for Involved CitizenryNovember 29, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    Gee wizz Berta – would you have me banned permantly also?
  14. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    @NFIC no I would not ban you, but I would have a policy that if people want to sling insults, they must use their verifiable given name. Pseudonyms would only be permitted to impart information or opinion WITHOUT insults and slander.
  15. Need for Involved CitizenryNovember 29, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    Using a pseudonym here would preserve my ability to get on a City Committee later since I don’t always see eye to eye with the government types all the time.
  16. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    @NFIC you should have the courage to stand behind your statements or don’t make them.
  17. Need for Involved CitizenryNovember 29, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    I have the courage to stand behind my statements no problem. I just don’t need to be harrased or personally targeted for them. Why do you think our ballots don’t have our names on them?
  18. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    @NFIC but you like to harass and target others for theirs, but only using your pseudonym of course, huh. You know my opinion of that…and it is not “courage”.
  19. damageincNovember 29, 2010 at 2:40 pm
    What about threats of violence under real names?
  20. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    @Nate, offer still stands anytime…
  21. JerryNovember 29, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    What offer ia that Berta? Is that a threat?
  22. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    None of YOUR business…
  23. JerryNovember 29, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    BGH You are not getting off that easy. What happened to all the courage? This is a public blog. You are always telling us how you stand behind your positions. So, tell us, What offer is that?
  24. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    @Jerry as I said, it is none of your business. Nate knows and so does EVERYONE else who has followed for some time. Since you only surface occasionally to throw barbs at me, I owe you nothing.
  25. JerryNovember 29, 2010 at 4:23 pm
    BGH That’s what I thought, courage and standing behind what you say only applies to other people. When it comes to you it is another story.
  26. That's what she saidNovember 29, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    I believe it is this “offer.”
  27. JerryNovember 29, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    TWSS Thanks for the info. Oh that offer! Does “I’ll meet you anywhere anytime so you can say that to my face. Or would that interfere with that yellow streak running down your back!” imply she is going to do something and he should be terribly afraid? Sounds like Jr High School Stuff to me.
  28. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 6:03 pm
    @Jerry I did answer you but you do not like my answer. I have plenty of courage apparently more than you do anyway. Use you real full name and introduce yourself and I will be happy to answer you in person. In fact, I look forward to it!
  29. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogNovember 29, 2010 at 10:47 am
    The speeding CHP officer is an issue I have long had a problem with. CHP and sheriffs are often flying by traffic and not using their turn signals for erratic lane changes. If there is a job related reason for this behavior then turn on the lights to give people a chance to know you’re coming and get out of the way. If not then start setting the example of how one SHOULD be driving. Being tasked with enforcing the law does not place one above the law, period.
  30. mikecNovember 29, 2010 at 11:03 am
    Jeff, If LASD or CHP is like LAPD, then they can only run their lights for specific calls. Im with you I live in CC and I have seen an LASD on at least two occassions doing at least 50 plus on a residental street with no lights. It appeared that he was responded to a call but had no lights on.
  31. damageincNovember 29, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    True. They can’t just hit the siren whenever they want.
  32. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogNovember 29, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    This is a fair point, and I don’t know what threshold a situation must achieve to warrant a siren. It is my personal gut feeling on the matter though that if the situation is not serious enough to warrant their use of lights then they probably don’t need to be flying around at 90+MPH. I would also love to see a valid reason as to why they are immune to the need for signaling, as well as “California” stops etc. I think that if they obeyed the law a bit more themselves it would go a long way towards positive impact from a PR standpoint as well as setting a good example to other motorists.
  33. ToddNovember 29, 2010 at 7:12 pm
    “Code 3″ (aka lights and sirens) are controlled as a matter of policy within each agency. I know that Burbank PD (at least during the time of my father’s employ) only allowed 1 car to go Code 3 at a time. So if there was something happening, everyone responding would be headed that way, but only one would “get the code” until they were on-scene, then the next unit would be cleared, etc. Everyone else would proceed at “code-2 high” which basically meant high rate of speed and lights but no siren. Effectively this meant that they had to be more cautious at intersections, and if memory serves, they weren’t allowed to cross the double yellow into oncoming traffic…. but aside from that, they could still pull very slowly into red-lights, travel at high rates of speed, etc, in the interest of public safety. People see police/sheriff/CHP cars flying around everywhere at high rates of speed. They may not have their sirens on, or their lights… But wherever they’re going, they need to go in a hurry. (What if it were YOUR life on the line???) I believe that 98/100 times they’re justified in how fast they’re going. Law enforcement officers have extensive training in high speed driving, and its ongoing training. You would be amazed at how well they drive. I happen to work with some of LAPD’s tactical driving instructors… they teach stunt professionals how to drive… thats how good they are.
  34. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 7:18 pm
    Yeah, in LASD too, often only certain cars are designated code 3 for an incident. And sometimes they’re instructed to roll silent. (Like, for a surprise attack.)
  35. Jeff (But not the one that runs this blogNovember 30, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    I understand what you’re saying, doesn’t mean I agree with the policy. Additionally, based on what I have witnessed, I would say you are WAY off on your “98/100 times they’re justified in how fast they’re going” statement. Also not sure why they would be precluded from simple traffic rules like turn signals for lane changes etc. As for their training with high speed driving, not sure what your point is, I never said they weren’t good drivers. And regarding your statement about “What if it were YOUR life on the line???” again this takes into account my problem with the policy, if my life or any other life is on the line and THAT car is the thing standing between that life and death then the use of lights should be justified. I am not someone who knocks the police out of habit, but I do feel that I see a lot of bad habits from officers that I personally think set bad examples for the rest.
  36. cashNovember 29, 2010 at 11:08 am
    I have witnessed the same poor driving habits by law enforcement. In fact, I have often seem them not follow the basic driving requirement/laws in a non emergency situation. I think they may believe they are privileged in some way. In any case, they are not setting a good example for the rest of us.
  37. Daddy Joe GNovember 29, 2010 at 11:05 am
    If I were facilitating the library committee, I would want both Berta and Lori and no more then 8 other people. Then we could build a library system worth of the name Awesometown!.
  38. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 11:37 am
    @ Daddy Joe G you and Lori are both welcome to attend committee meetings since they will be open to the public. If you cannot make meetings, there will be a survey you can complete. If those options do not work for you, you can contact anyone at the city by calling 661 259 CITY (259-2489), or Darren Hernández at DHERNANDEZ@santa-clarita.com . I also make myself available to take any legitimate concerns to the committee. My number is 661 251-0056. PS Thanks for the vote of confidence.
  39. Daddy Joe GNovember 29, 2010 at 12:17 pm
    The only thing that would work for me is a committee of 10 or less randomly selected members operating independently for the city council or staff. I have no confidence to be thanked for. You and the rest of the committee are drones.
  40. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    @DaddyJoeG I am no drone but thanks for the slap in the face. This conversation is over.
  41. Daddy Joe GNovember 29, 2010 at 3:31 pm
    I was a professional facilitator for almost 20 years before I retired. Don’t know how good I was, however they gave me lots of money and flew me all over the country. But you don’t need 20 years experience to know that a committee of 37 hand selected by those with a vested interest in the outcome of their deliberations can accomplish nothing. Calling you drones is a kindness. Dups would be more accurate. By the way, if you want this conversation to be over, simply don’t respond. You don’t get to tell me to shut up.
  42. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 3:54 pm
    Oh yes I do, shut up!
  43. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    @DaddyJoeG the thing is YOU do not get to tell me what I can SAY. You are not MY daddy Joseph Grande.
  44. Daddy Joe GNovember 29, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    You can say whatever you please, but if you say it to me I will respond. Do you have anything to say?
  45. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    @DJG I tried having civil discussions with you and that hasn’t worked very well, at this point only in response to your comments…
  46. damageincNovember 29, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    Only one library is in awesometown (awesometown is only valencia)
  47. NateNovember 29, 2010 at 11:37 am
    Happy Birthday JEFF. Oh Vaccinate Your Kids that’s all.
  48. NateNovember 29, 2010 at 8:10 pm
    BTW my comment was directed at the autism nut… being more aware of something doesn’t equate to being more of something. Vaccinate your kids and get some balance in your life autism nuts.
  49. Timothy Myers SRNovember 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm
    On NotaFerryFan: It is only a matter of time before someone is arrested for running up to see what the Council members have on their laptop screens when the public participation portion of the meeting is occurring.
  50. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    It sounds as if there might be some confusion as to the purpose of the committee. It’s to determine what type of library services are desired. *Of course* it is a “hand-picked committee,” with people from a variety of backgrounds who have a vested interest and lots of ideas for developing a good library master plan. The purpose is not to decide whether Santa Clarita should have a library system. That decision was made by the City Council. It is almost precisely the same process I mentioned earlier about Newhall revitalization in 1994/95. City Council had to make the decision to *do* Newhall before it was appropriate (and possible) for city staff to spend your tax dollars to hire consultants and hold workshops to determine what Newhall would look like. Same with libraries. City Council had to make the decision to *have* a library system before it was appropriate (and possible) for city staff to spend your tax dollars to hire consultants and hold workshops to determine what Santa Clarita library services would look like. It will be exactly the same type of months-long process, and hopefully with a similar turnout at the meetings (they’re counting on at least 37 people, as you know). They’ve already got 1,400+ survey responses in hand for library services in Newhall; they’ll need to do the same type of thing for Valencia and Canyon Country.
  51. JeffNovember 29, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    So it’s more of a focus group rather than a committee with power? Who leads the group, LSSI reps?
  52. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    Jeff — in a manner of speaking, yes, it is “more of a focus group rather than a committee with power,” just as our redevelopment committee and the parks commission and the arts commission are “more of a focus group rather than a committee with power.” (Of the city commissions, only the planning commission has specific “powers,” if by “powers” you mean that they have the final word about a particular course of action. But that’s getting a bit too technical for this conversation, I think.) *Without having asked,* I’m sure there will be a facilitator of some sort, be it an LSSI rep or some other private consultant. I would think it would be LSSI, since that is what we’re paying them for!
  53. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    OK, Jeff, let me try to clarify — all city committees and commissions are advisory to the city council (or to the planning commission in certain instances) except for the planning commission in the case of Conditional Use Permits. CUPs stop with the planning commission — unless they are appealed to the city council, which then has the final say. So in truth the only body with actual “power,” in the sense that I think you mean it, is the city council.
  54. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    Or to staff. That’s why I didn’t want to get bogged down in these technicalities. Sometimes committee/commissions are advisory to staff, when the decision involves things that stop at the staff level. (Minor use permits, and lots of day-to-day stuff.)
  55. Daddy Joe GNovember 29, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    Hi Leon, Just a couple of observations. First, I don’t think you’d be using Newhall redevelopment as an example of how to spend the taxpayer’s money if you had been to Newhall recently. But then, why would you have? Second, the 1400 responses for the Newhall library were for a county library. They do not count for a city library. You cannot compare 3 city libraries to 3 county libraries in the city. You must compare 3 libraries that are part of the county system to 3 stand alone libraries. There is a big difference.
  56. cashNovember 29, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    Leon are you sure you are not hoping for a TV studio in the new library building? You seem to support the city take over no matter how sound the opposition view may be.
  57. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    Hello cash — “no matter how sound the opposition view may be” — I do not believe it is sound at all. Not one iota. (Please don’t ask me to reiterate the 50 or 60 posts from over the weekend.) As to your question, no. A studio in the library would not work. We need a 16-foot ceiling, for starters. There are many reasons I could enumerate for why that’s not a viable option.
  58. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    And by the way, cash — if there were going to be a TV studio in the library — or a coffee shop, or an adult video store — that would have no bearing on who operates the library. It would be exclusively a city decision, regardless of whether we were still part of the county library system.
  59. cashNovember 30, 2010 at 11:37 am
    “It would be exclusively a city decision” Well, then maybe there is hope for you and a studio in the building. The space behind the laundry is not becoming of asumetown.
  60. Berta González-HarperNovember 29, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    @Jerry that is why even though you know who I am and attend CCAC meetings you do not use your full real name and have never introduced yourself to me. Courage right?
  61. JerryNovember 29, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    BGH No turning the conversation. You are one who talks about courage and using your real name. But, now it is you who will not stand behind your comment and explain the offer. It is a simple question that you do not seem to have the courage to answer.
  62. Leon WordenNovember 29, 2010 at 5:14 pm
    Dad – thanks for the comment but I live & work in Newhall. Come downtown on a Thurs-Fri-Sat nite!
  63. Daddy Joe GNovember 29, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    Sorry, don’t go downtown at night. Can’t run fast enough.
  64. cashNovember 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    See you at the VU!
  65. Gang FangNovember 29, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    I can feel the holiday spirit stirring in the air, so lovely! Happy Birthday, Jeff!
  66. Cheryl PhillipsNovember 29, 2010 at 11:33 pm
    @Jeff – Yes – Mr. Ronald Dubberly, President of Public Library Management Operations for LSSI will lead the Advisory Committee meetings. And yes, you are right when you suggest that 37 people do not form a committee – a focus group YES – a committee NO. And as Tim Myers said a while back, ” Also, a 37 member advisory committee will have extremely diluted authority by design.”
  67. Darren HernandezNovember 30, 2010 at 9:16 am
    The purpose of the Citizens Public Library Advisory Committee is to assist with conducting a community needs assessment and developing a strategic plan for the Santa Clarita Public Library. The needs assessment/strategic plan process is anticipated to take approximately seven months to complete. At each meeting the committee will be led through exercises designed within the guidelines of the American Library Association. In addition, the needs assessment process will receive input from roughly a dozen focus groups composed of specific library user types and a survey instrument that will be open to the entire community. Regarding the size of the committee, it’s helpful to note the group involved in the needs assessment process two years ago for the planning of the new Newhall library was in the 20′s. This committee is larger part because the scope of this process is larger and because of the large number of people interested in participating. The process will be facilitated by Mr. Ronald Dubberly, President of Public Library Operations for Library Systems and Services, LLC (LSSI). Mr. Dubberly is a past president of the Public Library Association, a former head of two prestigious public library systems (Seattle Public Library and Atlanta-Fulton Public Library), and a public library consultant for eleven years. He is a nationally recognized public library expert who has helped dozens of communities conduct similar needs assessment/strategic planning processes. Assisting Mr. Dubberly will be Mr. Mark Smith, West Coast Vice-President for LSSI. Mr. Smith supervises the operations of library systems totaling 49 branches, was the 2004 California Library Association Member of the Year and has published three books on public library management. If anyone has questions please email me directly at dhernandez@santa-clarita.com .
  68. Need for Involved CitizenryNovember 30, 2010 at 11:04 am
    I love City press releases on this site!
  69. Darren HernandezNovember 30, 2010 at 11:29 am
    You’re welcome!
  70. Berta González-HarperNovember 30, 2010 at 11:42 am
    @NFIC so you want answers but you do not want the person most in a position to provide accurate answers to post them here. Got it, thanks. Bye the way, does that also apply to County representatives, Don Ricketts, SEIU members, etc, or only the City?

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