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Fewer 16 and 17 year old drivers in California

Given that 16 to 18 year olds were involved in 25% of all traffic collisions in the SCV as recently as 2005, and given that our streets encourage highway-like speeds, this is the best news all week:

There was a time when many teenagers rushed out to get their driver’s license upon turning 16, but that number has dropped significantly in recent years, according to state and federal statistics.

Figures from the California Department of Motor Vehicles and the national Census Bureau show that 70,455, or 13 percent of the state’s 544,341 16-year-olds, got their licenses between 2005 and 2009.

That’s a significant decline from the 100,403, or 23 percent, of California’s 432,788 16-year-olds who received their licenses from 1995 through 1999.

SIGNAL

It’d be interesting to see how many 16 and 17 year olds are licensed today in the SCV compared with, say, my teenage years in the early 90s. Back in my pimply-faced youth, when I blasted Green Day from my tiny Nissan truck, having a driver’s license and a car was not just a right of passage, but was practical too. The distances between homes and high schools in the SCV can be great, and with one brother in elementary school and the other in junior high, my mom practically begged me to drive myself to Hart High.

Of course, even if fewer 16 and 17 year olds are on the road, that doesn’t necessarily mean our streets are safer as a result. Maybe the douchiness and disregard for others just gets delayed into the late teen years and even into the 20s. That’d be the conclusion I draw from all the 20 something men who die on motorcycles around town, not to mention the two-time DUI offenders who slam into groups of cyclists up on Bouquet.

Or to put it another way, have you ever been to COC when class lets out? It’s as bad as any of the high schools around lunch time.

Fewer 16 and 17 year old drivers in California

Comments (31)

  1. ReaderMamaDecember 22, 2010 at 8:36 am
    This is good news for me and will provide me with ammunition as my high schooler approaches the big one five and a half.
  2. Bill ReynoldsDecember 22, 2010 at 8:43 am
    Well, we surely wouldn’t want our young folks to have just too much personal responsibility now would we?
  3. cashDecember 22, 2010 at 8:52 am
    Maybe this is because driver education is no longer an entitlement, and insurance is more costly.
  4. Timothy Myers SRDecember 22, 2010 at 9:20 am
    I have a difficult time opining on this. Coming from a farming background we (males mainly) started operating farm equipment under supervision when we were seven and without supervision by the time we were 11, driving heavy tractors up and down the farm to market roads when we were twelve, and pickups by the time we were 13. One got their learner’s permit at 14 and their drivers license THE MINUTE they turned 16 and then basically lived out of their cars for the next two years. Our older daughters, who got their licenses in Nebraska, got their licenses at 16, though we forced one to surrender it for a year after she was in a non-injury accident three weeks after getting it. Moving to California, our oldest son started driving at 16 1/2. (He wasn’t under a lot of pressure because, since he started school in Texas where the cutoffs are earlier, he was the oldest person in his class.) Our daughter get her license ONE WEEK before her 18th birthday. It looks like our youngest son will probably get his license within about 2 weeks of his 16th birthday, but it does not have the same cachet since one cannot (legally) cart around their high school pals for a year.
  5. ReaderMamaDecember 22, 2010 at 11:25 am
    I think if you live on a farm and are raised doing chores around the farm, you become more familiar with machinery and the consequences of misusing it. Also, there is less chance of you killing a bunch of other people if you are in an accident on a farm than on McBean Parkway. Rural Nebraska or even “urban” Nebraska is a very different place than So Cal when it comes to driving.
  6. Timothy Myers SRDecember 22, 2010 at 1:54 pm
    I suppose that is right. I don’t know if it was attributable to the genius of John Deere or carefulness but there were almost NO injuries associated with young people operating farm equipment, and that equipment is incredible large and complex. I could not imagine turning our children loose on those tractors at a similar age.
  7. Jim FarleyDecember 22, 2010 at 9:36 am
    The Farley family household reflects this pattern. I was at the DMV in Glendale getting my license on my 16th birthday. My youngest soon had to be pushed to get his license at 18. What’s wrong with these kids today?
  8. ReaderMamaDecember 22, 2010 at 11:19 am
    I’m not sure it’s “wrong.” I’m kind of relieved that I won’t have to watch my daughter take off for a date with a 16 or 17 year-old boy in the driver’s seat!
  9. Jim FarleyDecember 22, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    Good point. I seem to remember shortly after getting my license testing my dad’s 64 Ford Galixy with a 390 engine with a four barrel Holley carb to see how fast it would go. Got it over 100 mph on the 5 through Burbank. Sometimes there are no negative consequences for stupid behavior. Age does indeed bring more wisdom and smarter behavior.
  10. ThomasDecember 22, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    So you want her to go with someone older?
  11. ReaderMamaDecember 22, 2010 at 5:28 pm
    Yeah, I want a parent driving!
  12. AlpinerDecember 22, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    I think it has more to do with driver’s education no longer being offered as a mandatory public high school class. My daughter waited until she was 17 because we did not have the money to pay for drivers ed until then and she needed to have a job to pay for her insurance which is a lot more today than it was when I was 16. It was wrong for California high schools to drop drivers education. Sure, it is not a right, but it is something that every teen needs to be educated on. Other states continue to offer it.
  13. Bill ReynoldsDecember 22, 2010 at 1:05 pm
    They didn’t have driver’s ed in the SFV when I earned my driver’s license at age 16. My folks taught me to drive and I studied for my license test. What a thrill it was to have my license and my own car at 16.
  14. Timothy Myers SRDecember 22, 2010 at 1:55 pm
    Bill, They did not have driver’s ed because they had just invented cars. (yuck, yuck)
  15. SFC PerezDecember 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm
    LOL, sorry Bill that was PWN’age
  16. Bill ReynoldsDecember 22, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Pretty lame, but almost funny coming from a short bald old man. Har har…
  17. Timothy MyersDecember 22, 2010 at 11:15 pm
    Hey, I ain’t bald!!!! Short and old? Guilty!!
  18. Bill ReynoldsDecember 23, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    Haha! Two out of three ain’t bad…
  19. navigatorDecember 22, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    Same with me. By the time I had driver training I’d had my license for a year already. I’m with Myers on this one: both our girls learned the hard way.
  20. SFC PerezDecember 22, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    When I was stationed in Germany, I marveled at how lengthy and in-depth their licensure and subsequent probation period was. But even they realized the dangers of just giving someone keys to potential death if not properly coached, mentored, and trained. And the way some of you Californians drive I would say remedial classes are in order. Turn signal anyone???? And BEFORE you actually change lanes too! And you can spot me cuz I’ll be the guy with Illinois plates giving you the international peace sign for your infraction lol
  21. SFC PerezDecember 22, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    And I think the other problem lies in the parents who either purchase or give the keys to kids with either the “Dude-Bro trucks”, BMWs, or Acuras. Get your kid a freakin Prius or Chevy Volt with a governor on the engine instead of a Mustang that goes 110MPH down the McBean hill.
  22. BrianDecember 22, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    I recall about 20 years ago in the Canyon Country area, there was a VW Beetle with a driver who looked 12. I guess he got tired of being stopped all the time so he had a sign in his window which stated “YES! I am 16! He had to be the most sober driver in town given his odds of being stopped. I wonder how he’s doing after all these years.
  23. spineflower2December 22, 2010 at 5:13 pm
    With the handpainted sunburst/rainbow on the hood of my Bug, and my shoulder-length hair is HS and early college, I got stopped WAY too many times. I finally got a haircut and painted over the hood. Too much bother!
  24. spineflower2December 22, 2010 at 5:16 pm
    With the web and cell phones, driving is way overrated with today’s teens. Our generation was at the DMV the day we turned 16 (15-1/2 for the permit), but today it’s not unusual to defer getting a licence until they are 18 or 19.
  25. cashDecember 22, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    Especially when we parents are willing to haul our kids around.
  26. TeaPartyPatriotDecember 23, 2010 at 5:30 am
    As a tea party patriot I hate the government’s interference in our being able to drive. Each family should take personal responsibility for when their kids are old enough to drive. My son was a great driver at 14. Why shouldn’t he be able to drive if he’s a good driver? Also each family should decide whether or not they want to buy insurance. I am a very safe driver. Why should I be forced to buy insurance I don’t need? Take personal responsibility for yourself.
  27. JeffDecember 23, 2010 at 5:59 am
    This can’t be for real. So many things wrong with this. But ok.
  28. Bill ReynoldsDecember 23, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    You started it…
  29. NickelDimeDecember 23, 2010 at 6:54 am
    It’s time for another splinter Tea Party group in the SCV! Band together, Patriots!
  30. SFC PerezDecember 23, 2010 at 10:38 am
    My son was really good at Mario Kart around age 8, maybe he could qualify under your thought process as well.
  31. ValCalDecember 30, 2010 at 12:13 pm
    “Douchieness”? Really? Was that really necessary? Can you please try to keep it a little classier than that?

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