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March 9, 2011 – Daily Brief

By Jeff — Jeff Wilson

  • Census Results In: Santa Clarita’s population increased 16.7 percent from 2000 to 2010 for a total of 176,320 people. The Latino population saw a huge 68% increase during that time with a full 51,941 Latinos calling it home. Koreans and Asians increased their share of the SCV as well. Local school districts knew the score before the Census results came out: the Newhall School District says Latinos now outnumber Caucasians at its ten schools. SIGNAL
  • Meanwhile, cities like Burbank and Glendale -nearly the same size as Santa Clarita- saw their populations increase only slight or drop, according to a Glendale PAPER
  • And statewide, Latinos are now virtually at parity with whites (37 to 40% respectively). A Times story says populations and power will shift to inland areas and away from coastal cities. Redistricting for both state and federal offices should allow California’s representatives to “look a lot more like California.” LA TIMES
  • At the City Council meeting last night, Councilmembers approved a buyout package for two auto businesses in Old Town Newhall. But when it came time to vote on hiring a landscaper to redo the so-called Sand Canyon Gateway, Councilmembers Kellar and Ender balked at hiring an out of town landscaper to do the work rather than a local company that was less expensive. That item passed 2-2, with Councilmember Ferry absent. Also: what’s up with the March 15 Council meeting? Find out at I HEART SCV, KHTS, SIGNAL
  • “It’s very disappointing, because we told the City Council at that (Aug. 24) meeting that we didn’t want them to do this, and they completely ignored us,” says a home-schooling mom who signed the new Santa Clarita Voters for Better Government petition urging the City to reconsider the library takeover. Bob Kellar, the only councilmember who voted against the takeover, says he’s “receptive” to the petition but respects the will of his fellow councilmembers too. SIGNAL
  • Sad lede: “The SCV Emergency Winter Shelter closes its doors for the season on March 15. Many of the shelter’s clients will return to local washes, streets and their cars.” KHTS
  • Excellent: Pat Saletore and the fine folks at the SCV Historical Society are using $5,000 in city grant money to build a real library of SCV history at the Saugus Train Station. The library will “contain treasured, historic and out-of-print material related to both the SCV and California,” according to KHTS
  • Some opposition and lots of questions about the Hart District’s plans to build a Castaic High at a meeting yesterday SIGNAL
  • Santa Clarita getting three more mental health professional workers thanks to some county, state and federal funding SIGNAL
  • Check out this announcement from the Valencia Industrial Association and The Signal about what the proposed chloride treatment fees would do to local businesses. SIGNAL
  • Concrete being poured for foundation of Newhall library. Quick: now’s your chance to make a handprint or write some message to the future CITY BRIEFS
  • The power of John and Ken: Governor Jerry Brown says Republicans are afraid to make a deal with him because they’re scared of having their “heads on a stick.” Great so our state budget is held hostage by two talkers who pitch window treatments and LASIK surgeries in between rants about illegals BLOOMBERG
  • Strange: millions of dead fish washed up in Redondo Beach yesterday. Biologists suspect red tide, driven in part by the freakishly strong wind storm the day before LA TIMES
  • John Boston wants to see a plaque to Elmer Fudd placed on Newhall’s Walk of Western Stars WRB
  • Parishoner at St. Stephens church says the ordination of a gay woman as pastor shows the church “is open to all of God’s people.” LTE

Comments (32)

  1. Joe GrandeMarch 9, 2011 at 9:09 am
    The city council meets again next week. They need the extra time to secure Zoro costumes so that they can properly defend Old Town from the evil governor.
  2. navigatorMarch 10, 2011 at 9:08 am
    I like it!
  3. AlpinerMarch 9, 2011 at 9:25 am
    The church has and always will be open to all God’s people — sinners and saints alike.
  4. spineflower2March 9, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    Alpiner, that sideways sleight of gays is only slightly more subtle than saying, for example, “the church welcomes blacks and other criminals.” Unless I misunderstood, and you meant to imply gays to be potential saints. Sexual behavior among consenting adults isn’t a problem for me. I wish the sex between priests and non-consenting non-adults were considered more of a problem by certain churches…
  5. ReaderMamaMarch 9, 2011 at 7:09 pm
    Amen.
  6. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 7:32 am
    Yeah they are “welcome” to come and change before they are “accepted” at which time they will be paraded around like a freak show as proof that gays can be cured.
  7. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 7:28 am
    Nice PR but not even close to the truth.
  8. Alan FerdmanMarch 9, 2011 at 10:25 am
    Flying under the radar right now is the latest Sanitation District Fee increase. If passed next month, $314 of your yearly property tax bill will be going to Sanitation District 32 by 2013. No information is being provided as to connection fee increases or what the financial impact of the Chloride issue will be. When our Sanitation Board Members were asked about the increase and future plan, at last night’s City Council Meeting, they did not provide any information. Like last year, there will be informational meetings we should attend and protest letters to send if the Sanitation District Staff cannot justify their proposal. There will only be one month for the public to become informed and take action. This is not a small increase and appears to be another” push it through quickly” issue. Each of you should have received a notice in the mail.
  9. Need for Involved CitizenryMarch 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    While my wife hates it, I thank my lucky stars that I am on septic. Now, if I only had my own water well…
  10. ReaderMamaMarch 9, 2011 at 7:10 pm
    Just put don’t put them too close together …..
  11. Fred ButlerMarch 9, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    No rage against the NPR takedown?
  12. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 7:34 am
    Please tell me you aren’t talking about he ridiculous video.
  13. Fred ButlerMarch 10, 2011 at 8:24 am
    The ridiculous video that exposes the dishonesty of NPRs management and their soon-to-be defunding? Yes. Keep in mind that I don’t care if NPR is liberally biased. If conservatively biased news groups can’t be supported with government money, neither should NPR.
  14. MikeMarch 10, 2011 at 8:41 am
    I love NPR and my politics are left of center. But to the extent they receive federal funding, I think they are too ideological.
  15. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 9:13 am
    It exposed nothing. Nothing James O’Keefe does can be trusted as honest. And Mike is right NPR is ideological. Every organization is Bias. The question is whether their reporting is unfair or untrue. NPR has given the facts. They reported the negatives about the “wars” when it wasn’t popular. I know this bothers you but if you can support a war, then you should be able to face the cold hard, bloody truth about it. Instead you want the supermarket neat clean bloodless version that doesn’t make you feel bad.
  16. Fred ButlerMarch 10, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    Nothing James O’Keefe does can be trusted as honest. Really? So congress (Democratic controlled congress) was wrong to defund ACORN? So NPR was too quick to fire the financial executive in the video and wrong to take the resignation of the CEO? Everything that O’keefe has done has gotten major results in a major way. So he’s hitting the right targets in the right way.
  17. JeffMarch 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    Major results? He got a few part time staffers at ACORN fired, one of them unjustly. He was also involved in the Shirley Sherrod case; She was fired unjustly. That NPR & liberals in general panic every time the right wing and Fox News’ get an erection over O’Keefe doesn’t validate his methods or tactics. By your standards, the murderer of George Tiller “got major results” too.
  18. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    Yes they were wrong to defund Acorn. Showing that perception is more powerful then the reality of fact. Acorn has been investigated over and over again and has come out clean every time.
  19. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    O’Keefe getting results from misrepresenting people and organizations and flat out breaking the law isn’t RIGHT. I guess it is Christian to allow the end to justify the means.
  20. ToddMarch 9, 2011 at 11:13 pm
    Are not Koreans also Asians?
  21. SCV LoverMarch 10, 2011 at 6:08 am
    the issue of gay relations continues to tear churches apart. Christ Lutheran used to embrace gay parishioners but when the Lutheran synod adopted a position that gay people in committed relationships could be leaders that was too much for the CLC leadership. They left the synod & lost many long time members.
  22. 4eyedsueMarch 10, 2011 at 7:31 am
    I know several families that were devastated by the break up at Christ Lutheran. The New Testament only mentions homosexual acts in three passages. None of the four gospels mentions it. As far as we know, Jesus never spoke about homosexuality. We don’t know what he might have thought about it. The lack of references to homosexuality in the New Testament says to me that it was not a huge concern either for Jesus or for the early Christians. Why is homosexuality such a big deal for Christians today?
  23. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 7:38 am
    4 might be a stretch. Some of the words that were translated into homosexuality where unknown words with no clear definition.
  24. 4eyedsueMarch 10, 2011 at 8:36 am
    True, Nate. Most scholars agree that the terms had to do with male homosexual activities- maybe young boy prostitutes and those that used their services. And nothing about the lesbians. The person at the center of the St. Stephan’s controversy is a woman!
  25. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 9:23 am
    Temple prostitution was rampant as part of the pagan religions which Christianity hated at the time. It was competition for this new and budding religion. While homosexuality might have happened in the pagan religion we don’t know for sure. We do know Sex was very much part of the pagan religions which involved paying “offerings” to have sex with prostitutes. Males and Females did this. Paul in the New Testament is condemning the practice of Temple prostitution, because many new Christians wanted to add this Christ to their shelf of pagan gods. He was the hip new thing after all. Christianity has always wanted to involve its self with people sex activities.
  26. 4eyedsueMarch 10, 2011 at 9:40 am
    especially Paul- he was the only one to mention homosexual acts in the New Testament. And I wouldn’t consider him the go to guy for matters of sex. He was single all his life and thought all men should be. He saw marriage as a last resort for those who couldn’t control their sexual desires. He concedes that “it is better to marry than to burn” (I Cor. 7:8-9). No question a devout follower of Christ, but I think Paul didn’t fully appreciate the love which God created to be shared between two people.
  27. Fred ButlerMarch 10, 2011 at 8:59 am
    You’d be mistaken if you think the Bible is unclear in both the OT and NT regarding homosexuality. Here’s an article by a liberal USAPC seminary prof. (So as not to be accused of being a raving fundamentalist). http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/03/my-take-the-bible-really-does-condemn-homosexuality/?hpt=C1
  28. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 9:39 am
    No I am not mistaken. What’s the matter Fred unable to answer your religion’s critics? I know my Bible and I know you are wrong. See unlike you I don’t work backwards, having my conclusion and finding Bible verses to support it. All the while ignoring the Bible verses you don’t like. It is no different then what you Christians call science aka “intelligent design”. We have our theseus, now we only need to find evidence to support it. Ignore evidence which you can’t explain or which is contradictory to your preconceived notion. Real science is always questioning itself and tries to disprove itself. That is the reason Gravity is a theory just like Evolution, we know both are fact but will never have 100% definitive answers for how either work. Scientist don’t make up stories about a 40 day flood cutting through a mile of solid granite to form the grand canyon, but intelligent design “scientists” do.
  29. 4eyedsueMarch 10, 2011 at 9:51 am
    Well, somebody is mistaken. Hence the over 33,000 Christian denominations worldwide. You do it your way, Fred. I’ll do it mine. I’m really not into swapping Bible verses. What really bothers me- obviously- is people using their interpretation of God’s word to promote fear, discrimination and hate in others. Tony Miano is doing just that. And perhaps a little bit of self-promotion too.
  30. Fred ButlerMarch 10, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Nate and 4 eyes. Did either of you even bother to read Gagnon’s material? Deal with any of his argumentation? Heck, he’s even written a major, academic book and has a website dedicated to the subject. He’s correct: Those who want to say the Bible doesn’t have anything to say about homosexuality are woefully mistaken. And dodging your error by changing the subject to something entire unrelated like ID doesn’t change the reality of things.
  31. NateMarch 10, 2011 at 3:59 pm
    The Bible condones polygomy. The Bible condones slavery. The Bible condones sexual slavery. The Bible condemns pride. The Bible condemns lying. The Bible condemns hate. The Bible condemns gossip. The Bible condemns eating Shrimp. The Bible also says that no Sin is great then the other. So even if you can make a case that the Bible condemns homosexuality… what does it matter? Are you also pro-slavery, polygamy & sexual slavery? Do you stand outside red lobster with a God hates Shrimp sign? Expelling any Shrimp eaters from you fellowship? Oh I know you will claim that some parts don’t apply anymore. Really odd how you are able to pick and choose which verses you will follow and which you will now. Do you expel people from church because they gossiped? lied? exhibited pride? or committed murder in their heart? Are these not greater if not equal sins? The Bible says that sin of Sodom was pride, so God destroyed them because they refused to repent. I think if homosexuality was a big sin, Paul would have said the Sins of Sodom were pride and homosexuality. I will never attend a church which excludes people they say they are their to help.
  32. 4eyedsueMarch 10, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    Why, yes Fred, I did read the material on the link you posted. It is one scholars view. Certainly not the only. I don’t believe I dodged the subject. In fact- I believe the subject is that Christians interpret the Bible in many differing ways. One of those differences happens to be homosexuality. No one can prove themselves correct- only support their view though interpretation of scriptures. My thoughts on Gagnon’s blog- He’s arguing against another blogger whose post I haven’t read and I’m not going to bother with. He picks 2 of her points to argue with. Some slave analogy- whatever- never heard that one before. His other point is against the idea that “God’s original intention for humanity was androgyny.” Again- never heard that one before. Sounds strange. I am not as credentialed as your blogger, but I am a Christian and here is what my belief is based upon- * Jesus says nothing about same-sex behavior. Why are we making it such a big deal? * The Jewish prophets are silent about homosexuality. * Only six or seven of the Bible’s one million verses refer to same-sex behavior in any way-and none of these verses refer to homosexual orientation as it’s understood today. *Romans 1:26–27 is about idolatry- not homosexuality. Certainly not about loving, committed same-sex relationships. *1 Corinthians 6:9–10 and 1 Timothy 1:8–11 do refer to homosexuality, but what they likely mean is not homosexuality per se but rather young boys prostituting themselves out and the men that used them. The words malakoi and arsenokoitai have been translated several different ways. As I’ve said, Fred, you believe what you wanna. Just please don’t force it upon anyone else through legislation. Jesus says 23 times that we should love each other. He doesn’t say anything at all about homosexuals.

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