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Laws Broken? Probably not, but Buck McKeon is a “Job Creator,” if One’s Last (or Maiden) Name is McKeon!

So anonymous blogger REALLY PATRICIA started posting a series of blog entries on December 30, 2011. I received an email from the blogger that day linking to the entry while doing something truly productive on a day off: Watching the first season of “Raising Hope” on Netflix.

I responded to the email stating that since the blogger is not known to us, we needed to give a chance for Buck McKeon or his staff to respond to the accusation. I sent an email to an address that Patricia McKeon has used to correspond in the past giving 24 hours to respond before SCVTALK linked or commented.

About one hour later at about episode 7 where, ironically, our hero Jimmy Chance goes to work at Howdy’s Market to obtain health insurance for his child Hope, I received a call on my personal phone from the Congressman himself, asking for an extension to Wednesday, January 4, to respond to the inquiry because of the holiday weekend.

I was quite impressed (and my normally cynical children were as well) that a Congressman would call me in my living room to ask for grace, which I was only too happy to provide, on behalf of both myself and the entire SCVTALK editorial board.

Well, it is close of business on January 4, 2012 and I have received no further contact from the Congressman or any of his staff, so my conscience is clear and we have provided the link above and some commentary below.

The anonymous blogger has done a lot of work examining and linking to public documents to show that the McKeon Congressional campaign has made payments of various kinds and amounts over the years to McKeon family members or companies with an ownership interest or other involvement by McKeon family members, in addition to the annual salary of Patricia McKeon as campaign manager. Most of the payments seem to deal with Web related expenditures, from Web Hosting to web development.

Now making payments from a campaign to a family member for goods or services is not per se illegal. An offense occurs if the payments are in excess of “fair market value” of the services rendered or goods provided. The blogger thinks he has found a “smoking gun” that the payments for web services, with which he or she seems to be familiar, seem quite high. Other technology folks have also commented to me on the record that the charges are inflated by some minor factor, generally combined with a dig on the overall quality of the Congressman’s website.

Now (my opinion only) this argument does not impress me. It has been my experience that when folks argue that someone “overcharged” the next line is that “I would have charged (some percentage) less” which is entirely subjective and difficult of proof unless the charges are at least a factor of 20 or 30 times the baseline “custom.” (They are not in this case.) So I am 90% confident no laws were broken by the campaign.

However, it is true that the McKeon campaign seems to have gone to some lengths to disguise acts of (perfectly legal but somewhat distasteful) nepotism, and perhaps that is the question that should really be addressed.

Laws Broken? Probably not, but Buck McKeon is a “Job Creator,” if One’s Last (or Maiden) Name is McKeon!

Comments (16)

  1. drydenfireJanuary 4, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    Pretty disgusting. Hope the LA Times drills into this. Retweet everybody. In related news, I’d pay Jon Hatami’s campaign “team” $100. if Jon holds a press conference and talks about this. OR anything really.
  2. LindaJanuary 4, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    “Job creator” — I love it! Time for McKeon to retire and take his wife and children with him.
  3. spineflower2January 4, 2012 at 8:43 pm
    Or run for office in Montebello or Bell…
  4. NOT Buck McKeonJanuary 4, 2012 at 11:00 pm
    Tim, you and Jeff and Mike and Nate have way, way too much time on your hands. Get a life. This has to be one one the stupiest, most simple minded, uneducated pieces of journalism I have ever read! Having a BS in Animal Husbandry, and being a boot salesman, I have written many, many articles. My job offer has FOOTNOTES, you idiot! An job offer based on research, is NOT plagiarism, you absolute Moron. If you are going to accuse anyone of nepotism, which is a serious charge, I hope that you are prepared to deal with the consequences. My job offer was based on research. An job offer to my family is not an original piece of nepotism, it is based on research. What an ass! Tim, you work for SCVTalk.com. You are a journalist. I didn’t mean to fly off the handle, but you have made a serious, serious charge. A charge that you can be sued for libel. You should not have written an article such as this. My original job offer has numerous footnotes, which I do not need to post on a letter to a newspaper or internet article. It is not an original piece of nepotism. It is a job offer. I am asking for a complete apology and a retraction. Accusing a boot salesman of nepotism is an actionable charge in California. I am giving Tim an opportunity to retract this article. Tim, we have decided as a campaign to no longer associate with SCVTalk.com, you, Todd, or that guy out in Ventura County City. We will remove you from our webpage, and we will continue our campaign in a positive direction. It is very clear that you, David Luteness, Cam Noltemeyer, Lynne Plambeck, all of SCOPE for that matterand some of your friends bring nothing positive to Santa Clarita or to this election. You only focus on the negatives. You only criticize. You have nothing positive to say or to bring to this community. (To satisfy some of those out there, the preceding piece is intended as satire and should only be read from that perspective. “NOT Buck McKeon” is not Buck McKeon, Patricia McKeon, Nancy McKeon or Trudy for that matter, and their views do not represent those of the cast of The Facts Of Life, Family Ties or Growing Pains. But Kirk Cameron does urge you to pray often. Paid for by Petz for President 2064.)
  5. ScottEJanuary 5, 2012 at 8:22 am
    “Ventura County City …” *slowrollingrumblinglaugh* Good one.
  6. CCJanuary 5, 2012 at 8:22 am
    LOL Thumbs up
  7. Sterling KingJanuary 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm
    Tim, I thank you for a fairly objective point of view on the matter. My view is that because buck is in a rather high profile position as chairman of the Armed Services Committee, his scrutiny is all relative. Every congress chairman has their legions after them. I also know that Really Patricia is seething to bring down Patricia and if Buck can be damaged in the process, all the better. I feel your analytical view is properly aligned with reality rather then distortion as published by RP. Buck is the kind of guy who would call you in your living room like that. He is a very genuine guy who could talk to you for a good long time and care about your opinions and share the dynamics of what is going on in DC. I know politics and it’s ruff exterior of undefended characterizations. I’m glad you felt compelled to be real about this one. Thanks Tim.
  8. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 5, 2012 at 8:53 am
    Sterling: Thank you but somewhat disturbed that the Congressman himself pleaded for an extension to Wednesday, 1-4 for their response and I have as yet received NO response. I wonder why?
  9. Really PatriciaJanuary 5, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    Not to get into flame war with you Mr. King, but if you could simply point out what was distorted about what I laid out in the five different articles I would appreciate that. I did probably over 40 hours of research the last two weeks to find this data, read the laws, find price comps, and many other items that led me to the conclusion I came to. I then provided all of that freely available data to the readers to verify. I did provide my opinion in some places, but that opinion is backed by the facts I provided. Let me provide you with this litmus test: If the site was called Really Nancy? and dealt with Nancy Pelosi and laid out and provided the same facts, would you, a conservative republican like me, say that Nancy Pelosi did nothing wrong? Mr. King, believe me when I tell you this. I understand where you are coming from. You have known Buck and Patricia, on a personal level, for a long time. Should that mean that you give them a pass and not ask tough questions? They are leaders in the community and this country. It is our job to hold them to a higher standard. I believe in speaking the truth. Yes I will admit I am a snarky, sarcastic writer. But outside of obvious satire what I write about are facts. Truthful, factual, verifiable information. But my question still stands. What in the series of 5 articles was a distortion of truth (i.e. where did I lie about anything)?
  10. MikeJanuary 5, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    I need to say, the Really Patricia operation has gone from “meh” to a really impressive source of original research, and in this case, uncovered some seriously shifty business. I understand why Tim gave Buck the courtesy to wait, I probably would have done the same, but it seems now that Buck was pulling a juke. Fool me once…
  11. Eric HeilbrunJanuary 5, 2012 at 5:31 am
    One cannot overlook that being a member of congress is often treated as a “family business”. Some just have bigger budgets than others. This is why being a member of Congress is a coveted job and for most members of Congress, job #1 is keepinng the job. Job #2 is towing their party line because otherwise they fail at job #1. Doing what’s best for the country, job #3 at best. http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_13/house-spouses-make-good-money-from-campaigns-207654-1.html
  12. ToddJanuary 5, 2012 at 8:18 am
    Eric, you’ve moved Job # 3 ahead of several other jobs: Keeping fundraisers happy Keeping PACs happy Keeping wealthy constituents happy Kissing babies Cutting ribbons
  13. brookJanuary 5, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Close of business January 4th – given the first comment by Drydenfire is at 5:32pm – I guessed you already had written your piece and couldn’t wait for your “close of business” to click “post”. If you truly wanted to hear McKeown’s response – your piece would have been posted today to make sure a response wasn’t coming. But whatever, definitely TMS move. That being said – I don’t agree with what McKeown might have done – sounds shisty to me!!! It will be interesting to hear what he has to say about it. But regardless I am voting for Wilk!
  14. MikeJanuary 5, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Tim talks to Buck on a Friday, gives him the unusual courtesy of waiting until Wednesday to respond, he follows up, still nothing. Tim gave him until 5. Last I heard, Buck still hasn’t said a word. Fair play of Tim’s part.
  15. ToddJanuary 5, 2012 at 11:12 am
    The only thing I have to add to this is that I once ran into one of Buck’s older granddaughters at a local store, and she was rather attractive. Were I not married, and considerably younger, I would hope to a.) date and eventually marry said granddaughter and b.) get in on the family business.
  16. BertaJanuary 6, 2012 at 9:37 am
    I worked for H&P years ago for a brief period. The McKeon’s in general, with only a couple of exceptions, were physically attractive but of the brother’s John McKeon was the best looking and his children, particularly the girls, were stunning and could have been fashion models.

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