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Newhall as the SCV’s “Cultural Bedrock”

Attributed to Jeff Wilson (editor-supplied)

Main Entry: bed-rock
Pronunciation: \-ˈräk, -ˌräk\
Function: noun
Date: 1850
1 : the solid rock underlying unconsolidated surface materials (as soil)

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Main Entry: bed-rock

Pronunciation: \-ˈräk, -ˌräk\

Function: noun

Date: 1850

1 : the solid rock underlying unconsolidated surface materials (as soil)

Time for some frank talk SCV. A valley-wide intervention if you will.

Laurene Weste’s comments that Newhall -specifically SoLy, Old Town, P-Canyon, and Newhall Avenue- is the SCV’s “cultural bedrock” really rang true to me. And not just because I live here.

With the valley’s only real museum, Hart Park, the western Walk of Stars, the Train Depot (I know it moved, but it’s still here and not there), Hart High, lots of ranches, the Historical Society, Old Town, , Placerita Canyon, a lack of cookie-cutter housing and so much more, the only possible answer to the questions “From whence does SCV culture spring?” and “Wherefore is the bedrock of SCV Culture?” is Newhall.

Indeed. After decades of languishing and official neglect, Newhall is finally ascendant. Ten years ago we got a train station. Then a community center. Then things finally started happening in Old Town Newhall. And now, we have a blank slate on which to build a new library. And we purchased some old decrepit auto shops which we can now turn into something beautiful.

And then just last week it happened. The feather in our cap, the news of the year, the deal of the century: Disney, in recognition of our brilliance,  is moving to the 91321 and bringing with it thousands of jobs and new opportunities.

I’m so proud and happy for this town named after the famous auctioneer that I’m thinking it might be time for Newhall to split from the rest of Santa Clarita. Specifically, the parts of town that form the “unconsolidated surface materials” resting on top of my bedrock, weighing us down, retarding our progress.

I’m talking to you Valencia. Nothing exciting ever happens in your zip code. Valencia will look the same in 50 years as it does today, I’m certain of it. And Valencians are so ignorant, even contemptuous of, Newhall’s status that they’ll welcome that. Built as promised and never changing, that’s the Valencia way!

And what about Saugus? Well I’m fond of the name since that’s where Henry Newhall came from, but let’s be honest: nothing is so unconsolidated as Saugus. Really, if it wasn’t for Central Park, I’d never venture north of Newhall Ranch Road. There is just nothing compelling in your part of town (okay, I guess Best Buy.) I know it’s not your fault; when you moved here, you probably didn’t do the research to know that Newhall has it all, so you moved to Saugus. Poor sod.

Finally, there’s Canyon Country. Believe it or not, the SCV’s whipping boy had culture and, at one time, challenged Newhall’s dominance. (What? Redneck culture is still culture, right?) But no longer. Sadly, today “surface materials” is just about the best descriptor for Canyon Country. It is the place where people who own stomper trucks live, it is a place where chain restaurants and empty furniture stores dot the landscape in a truly haphazard way. Sorry CC, I heart you, but you just can’t compare anymore.

And then there’s Castaic. Someone call me when we finally learn how to deal with the valley’s resident schizophrenia patient.

So, to my fellow Newhallians, on this day as the West Side ponders their future, let us consider the proposition that not all SCV communities are created equal. Indeed, let us heed the words of Laurene Weste and acknowledge our cultural, geographic, and intellectual superiority to the rest of the SCV, and let us seek to separate ourselves from these lesser communities and form our own empire, the resurgent empire of Henry Mayo Newhall!

 
Newhall as the SCV’s “Cultural Bedrock”

Comments (18)

  1. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 10:26 am
    You forget Las Delicias. Oh that’s right, how would you know about Las Delicias? Are you just jealous Valencia has two Chipotles? Newhall is the part of town that is most likely to be truly awesome. Also the most likely to be anything but. I’m pulling for it. And you’re right. Saugus is a complete snooze. Even though that’s a good thing sometimes. We have neither the glitz and convenience of Valencia, the risk of Canyon Country nor the authenticity of Newhall. Yes, I’m a self-hating Saugsian.
  2. JeffNovember 3, 2009 at 10:30 am
    Hey! I find my own taco dives in Newhall that you are entirely ignorant of. Have you tried Las Lomas yet?
  3. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 10:44 am
    that’s true, I have lost a step.
  4. Fred ButlerNovember 3, 2009 at 10:58 am
    Sorry CC, I heart you, but you just can’t compare anymore. If they would only force us to come into the city limits and gentrify us…
  5. NickelDimeNovember 3, 2009 at 11:02 am
    You O-G SCVers think of Valencia as Old Orchard and maybe-just-maybe a dash of Bridgeport and Northbridge. Northpark? Tesoro-cum-Pitchess? Copperhill? West Hills/West Creek? Creekside? Humbug ! That’s all Saugus/Tesoro “no-man’s land.” Well, Valencia High is up in this place. As is Rio Norte, our Valley’s highest scoring middle school. We also have the San Francisquito dam(n) ruins and some pretty sweet trails. But it’s mostly quiet, lacks much character, and is chock-full-o big box and franchised stores. Lots of communities have hitched their wagons to the Valencia train, including the decidedly-Saugus “RiverVillage” off Bouquet and Newhall Ranch. I know, it’s NLF marketing, but it must be worth something. Perhaps people come to this valley looking for an escape from all the “character” that is the SFV. We like it sterile and bland, thank you very much. And if there’s one place more sterile and bland than Valencia, it’s the west side.
  6. Timothy MyersNovember 3, 2009 at 11:21 am
    Nickeldime: The technical definition is that anyplace developed by NL&F is “Valencia” so it includes Westridge, River Village, the politically powerful “North” tracts, West Creek, Alta Vista, etc, BUT exlcudes Tesoro (Suncal development) and the Seco Canyon Corridor that might still cling to this made up place of “North” Valencia. In the “North” tracts we have Wolf Creek which is fairly cool and the Paseo Club which has some cool aspects but otherwise it is wall to wall Californication.
  7. Berta González-HarperNovember 3, 2009 at 12:42 pm
    Hey Jeff. Be careful in putting down Canyon Country. We also have a rich history. Among many other things, we had the first school district out here, second oldest in all of Los Angeles County, founded by Martha Mitchell wife of pioneer landowner Thomas Findley Mitchel. The Mitchell Adobe, the first schoolhouse in SCV, was moved a few years ago to Heritage Square near Hart Park in Newhall. We also had train depots like Lang and Ravenna, rich operating mines, an air strip, bandidos, the largest bear killed in California that served as inspiration for the California Bear Flag, and a host of other historic people and places. We don’t need to put down any other area to feel proud of our own! I live in Canyon Country and am very proud of my community. We don’t have cookie cutter houses since this area was/is populated by rugged individualists with a pioneering spirit. We do however have some of the most expensive homes in the SCV at McMillan Ranch, Sand Canyon and other areas of Canyon Country. We are the community with the richest diversity of cultures in the SCV, bar none. Yes, we have some challenges only made worse by our tough economic times, but we are still a great community with a rich heritage. Please do us a favor and stop repeating the same incorrect statements about us. We have the only Costco in the valley (take that!), Centre Pointe Business Park,a terrific 24 hr Walmart Supercenter and Sam’s Club, a new shopping area at Plaza at Golden Valley Ranch with Lowe’s, Target, Kohl’s and more, a new COC campus, we are working on approving the largest medical facility in all of the SCV, looking to improve our older residential neighborhoods without whining like the Bonelli folks,and in general have a great mix of oldtimers and younger residents too. So you all come visit, ya hear!
  8. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 12:54 pm
    damn
  9. Fred ButlerNovember 3, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    I was going to say you all are welcome to visit our Costco.
  10. CCNovember 3, 2009 at 12:59 pm
    Yeah, take that! Canyon Country doesn’t have to come to Valencia for underwear no more!
  11. navigatorNovember 3, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    Way to go Jeff!! Let’s cecede from the City! GO NEWHALL!
  12. NickelDimeNovember 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm
    Tim: I know there are inconsistencies and exceptions on this, but the zip code is usually the defining artifact. School assignments would be up there, as well. Last I checked, River Village was 91350 and assigned to attend Saugus High. The only thing “Valencia” about it is the marketing brochure.
  13. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    The zip code is meaningless, especially if the boundary predates the neighborhood. News flash: ALL OF VALENCIA IS CALLED VALENCIA FOR MARKETING REASONS. Valencia is the name for the project, a master planned by Newhall Land. Any part of it is named Valencia. It’s all in a name because it always was.
  14. NickelDimeNovember 3, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    mike: “All of Valencia is called Valencia” Your definition makes absolutely zero sense. The master plan (Have you actually seen it?) is loose at best and extreme liberties have been taken. Zip code matters a ton (90210, anyone?) and giving out one’s mailing address tells the tale as to where you are (not to mention being across from the Saugus speedway and sending your kids to Saugus High). ALL DUCKS ARE CALLED DUCKS. Except when they aren’t ducks. You can call it a duck, but if it moos and squirts milk out its nipples, it ain’t a duck.
  15. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 4:37 pm
    Is there anywhere in Santa Clarita developed by Nehwall Land that isn’t called Valencia? Or any part of Valencia not set up by Nehwall Land?
  16. cashNovember 3, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    Yes, the west side of the 5 freeway was set up by NL. So is most of the Castaic industrial park.
  17. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 7:28 pm
    Oh, you mean the “Valencia Commerce Center” and the “Valencia Marketplace”?
  18. mikeNovember 3, 2009 at 7:33 pm
    Ask Tim Myers what town Landscape Development claims, for example.

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