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Pins and Needles on Castaic School Site Decision!

Back in 1997 there was a movement for about ten minutes to make the Castaic Union School District (“CUSD”) a unified K-12 district and start a temporary high school somewhere on the grounds of Castaic Middle School against the future dream of a comprehensive high school site at that time unknown.

During this period I met with a member of the CUSD school board and Town Council who did not support the unification drive to find out why the movement enjoyed the life of a fruitfly.  When pressed on his view he hemmed and hawed but basically admitted that any nascent Castaic High School would enroll about 600 to 800 students, would SUCK in athletics, and thus deprive students of the chance for Division I scholarships available at the four to five times larger Valencia High School just down the road.

Any other thoughts regarding unification were forgotten when the Hart District mooted a school site in the Sloan Canyon area on parcels actually acquired by the (quasi) independent Facilities Foundation, a plan that quickly fell to NIMBYISM and distraction in the actual building and opening of three additional high schools and two junior high schools.  Also, the now bankrupt Suncal partnership then developing Northlake subsequently promised a turnkey dream high school in the expanded Northlake area, a dream that died in 2008 with the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the residential real estate market.  For comic relief a mooted site in the Valencia Commerce Center failed because existing CCR’s forbade the construction of a school facility.

So on Wednesday, July 14th, the Hart District Board MAY make a final decision so that the three to four year process of construction and opening can finally begin in earnest.  The two mooted sites are Sloan Canyon and another site in Romero Canyon and the few of us knowledgeable or interested in the unspoken back story of the zero sum game of real estate development in the SCV await with a sense of bemusement and moderate interest, much like the population of the US in the outcome of the World Cup.

Let me start at the outset by stating the obvious:  Neither site is a “good” or obvious choice.  In the late 1980′s when Newhall Land and Farming starting carving the Northbridge and Northbridge Pointe tracts out of the hills north of the Santa Clara River it became apparent that the last piece of “flat”land had been developed and any future development would contend with what I call RCO’s (ridgelines, creeks and oil facilities).  Both proposed sites contain elements of some or all.

So what about costs?  The proponents of both sites produce well meaning cost estimates that set their sites in a good light, but without venality or dishonesty these estimates could be wrong by substantial margins.  As one old construction hand stated, you never really know what lies below until you start digging a hole.

So it appears that the “argument” now rests on affinity with the opposing developers.  John Kunak pens a letter today stating the preference of various constituencies in Castaic with the Romero site (and also its developer) while talk swirls about an internal Hart District administrative bias towards the Sloan Canyon site.  The decision probably hinges on the vote of one Paul Strickland, who must weigh his political ambitions in a no win situation where he will upset at least one substantial Republican constituency with his final vote.

I will not predict the final outcome of site selection, but I can predict that the eventual Castaic High School will enroll about 1,200 to 1,500 students and be the absolute RUMP of the Foothill League.  Hoorary!

Pins and Needles on Castaic School Site Decision!

Comments (19)

  1. Sean "1978" MorrisseyJuly 13, 2010 at 10:28 am
    Should the issue be academic performance over athletic performance? So what if they are last, would be even better if they had no athletic department at all IMO.
  2. Tim MyersJuly 13, 2010 at 10:31 am
    99 times out of 100 aggregate academic performance tracks with athletic performance. Obviously not causally connected but both indicative of a school with enough enrollment critical mass to succeed and good administrative execution.
  3. Tim MyersJuly 13, 2010 at 10:36 am
    Much as it pains me to say it Hart High School up until recent times when athletics (particularly football) has weakened has enjoyed EXCELLENT athletics, EXCELLENT academics, and EXCELLENT band and choir. Not a coincidence. A comprehensive high school of 1,200 will bask in mediocrity in all aggregate measures.
  4. drive66July 13, 2010 at 11:47 am
    I am by no means a sports nut but why on earth would you want “no athletic department at all”? To a majority of kids sports are an important part of growing up and in high school in particular.
  5. Kevin D. KorenthalJuly 13, 2010 at 11:21 am
    If Mr. Strickland remains the thoughtful and research-capable individual that I have witnessed while serving with him in numerous capacities over the years, he will choose the Romero Canyon Site. Hasley/Sloan is a terrible location to build a school and it will require a great deal more mitigation in order to become a decent plot of land on which to build the school. The biggest issue with Hasley/Sloan is that (unlike Romero Canyon) there is no direct and legal access to the site in place. Some sort of bridge will need to be built and the gully, culvert/dry stream that it will cross will need to be lined with concrete as per regulations that govern such things. I also believe that there is higher opposition from neighbors of the Hasley/Sloan site, additional environmental issues that must be mitigated and the need for numerous oak tree removal permits. Whatever choice Paul Strickland makes, I am sure we can expect a full explanation of why he came to that decision.
  6. Need for Involved CitizenryJuly 13, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    The best part of a new high school in Castaic is that it will reduce enrollment at Valencia, thus making their student populations more on par with other SCV schools and diminish their athletic prowess. Then, we won’t need to hear Tim Myers crow about how “athletically” superior Valencia is to the other district teams!
  7. Tim MyersJuly 13, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    NFIC: I’m banking on the Viking athletic administration to successfully “skim the cream” off the Castaic attendance area for at least five or six years, like Hart blatantly robbed Saugus High School in the 90′s. (SNAP!!!! I said it!!!!)
  8. CastaicClayJuly 13, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    Where is the access to the Hasley/Romero site? Is it from Castaic or will it be up Hasley Cyn?
  9. Tim MyersJuly 13, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    One taps their heels together three times and says. “There’s no place like home…” Or, John Kunak would be happy to drop you off!
  10. mikeJuly 13, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    I *think* the Romero site is by the northern end of Romero, near Parker Road maybe?
  11. Berta González-HarperJuly 14, 2010 at 12:58 am
    You can go to http://www.castaichighschoolnow.com and view maps of the Romero site and read all about the property.
  12. mikeJuly 14, 2010 at 9:35 am
    wow, will kids need a helicopter or a hovercraft to get to school?
  13. Berta González-HarperJuly 14, 2010 at 10:23 am
    Very funny. I would like solar powered golf carts but somehow I don’t think teenagers will go for that. They will just drive on paved and improved roads to school in their BMW’s, SUV’s, VW’s, or whatever depending on their parents or their own economic status just like all the other high school kids do.
  14. RemStarJuly 13, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    Clearly there is not a need today or in the near future for an additional high school. As illustrated in the past on this blog, elementary school enrollment does not show a bulge of students working its way toward high school age. Also, the Hart District can’t fund its current roster of teachers, so how are they going to pay to operate a new high school? They are likely praying the economy has recovered and the state budget defict has been resolved (the state funds public education), but would you expand your business at this time on the hopes the economy would catch fire and your sales will increase in a few years? This additional high school is being ushered along by politics (ironically in the form of pandering to the politically weak Castaic community) and by the raft of lobbyists employed by a powerful local developer who is a well known anti-government conservative, but who made a personal fortune through developments heavily subsidized by public agencies (no contradiction there of course – welfare for the poor is abhorent, but when a rich landowner is involved it’s “economic development”). One of the benefits, though, is Castaic students will be kept in Castaic and the academic quality of Valencia High School will rebound. Put your money on Romero Canyon because the politicians on the Hart board know on what side their bread is buttered.
  15. Tim MyersJuly 13, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    “One of the benefits, though, is Castaic students will be kept in Castaic and the academic quality of Valencia High School will rebound.” Oh no you didn’t!!
  16. drive66July 13, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    Tim Myers, The sad thing is that you’re not kidding. What is wrong with you?
  17. Tim MyersJuly 13, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    I was quoting what RemyStar said, and then said “Oh no you didn’t.” Get it! RemyStar was going along pretty good and then they went off the rails with that comment.
  18. drive66July 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    Ahhh, Tim, my apologies. Remstar, The sad thing is that YOU’RE not kidding. What is wrong with YOU? 8-B
  19. spineflower2July 13, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    Not ONE penny more for local education until the promises made to sell half a BILLION dollars in bonds is kept and Castaic High School built! It amazes me that the supposedly financially responsible Republicans of this valley, so disdainful of Obama’s spending, are not at the steps of the HS district every meeting with pitchforks and torches demanding fiscal responsibility and keeping of those promises to make Castaic High School the NUMBER ONE PRIOROTY, just as the ballot arguments promised. To oppose this is to endorse the lying sacks of $hit that deceived us into voting for the bonds. Yet some think this is about a damn football team?

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