SCV Talk · Archive
Nine years of the Valley’s town square · 2006–2015
SCV Talk
January 3, 2011· scvtalk.com · WordPress (SCVTalk 3.0) · Wayback capture

January 3, 2011 Daily Brief-”Back to Work” Edition

Yes, to the shock and dismay of my Nebraska bride I watched four football games yesterday, three from start to finish (Outback, Rose and Fiesta Bowls).  With respect to the last two Bowls is there a purpose for the defense anymore?  But today it is back to work and back to our new schedule of the Daily Brief:

  • First SCV baby of the New Year comes on January 2 at around noon.  SCVNEWS has details.  Mom was shocked thinking that surely a baby would be born on January 1.
  • SIGNAL has feel good piece about local “utes” participating in the Rose Parade.  Like many of my Southern California compatriots I concluded long ago that the Rose Parade is more boring than listening to a Libertarian campaign platform, so stopped watching long ago.
  • My personal favorite local  ”socialist borderline communist” LORI RIVAS pens a (gasp) nuanced piece on immigrant labor and day laborers on local streets.  Click the link frequently today to see how nasty the comments can get.  The over/under on the length of Berta’s response is 500 words.
  • LTE writer accuses City Government of not caring about the Winter Homeless Shelter.  News Flash:  I have examined the inflows of money that support the shelter and there is only one reason the SCV has a shelter at all:  Michael Antonovich.  The County picks up 80-85% of the shelter’s annual costs.  Shout out to Supe Mike for actually implementing his sincere Christian principles in the way he governs unlike the “supermarket” Christians that (mainly) populate our City Council.
  • We have word that at least ONE candidate will turn in their nomination papers today for City Clerk verification.  Stay tuned for the afternoon election update.
January 3, 2011 Daily Brief-”Back to Work” Edition

Comments (29)

  1. AlpinerJanuary 3, 2012 at 11:54 am
    Sorry, have to disagree with you….Liberatarian campaign platforms are far more boring than the Rose Parade. As a matter of fact, I do not know anything out there that is more boring…except maybe the Democratic platform. Personally, I prefer the Republican Platform, much more in tune with this great nation…
  2. AlpinerJanuary 3, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    Love the Rose Parade…
  3. ToddJanuary 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Agreed, although, its better seen in person than on TV. I’ve had grandstand seats, and camped out, and both have their merits. Thank GOD That KTLA had the sense to boot the b***h that tried to muscle her way in and kicked Stephanie Edwards to the curb (literally). You don’t mess with an institution. Only God has that right. If you’ve never had the chance to go look at the floats parked at the end of the route, I recommend that as well… but really, for full effect, take some time with the family and volunteer to help build one. I did it for all of my teenage years, and have stopped by on occasion since in Beautiful Downtown Burbank, and its a good time. Sure its hard work, sticky and cold, but theres an unmatched sense of pride seeing what you did on TV New Year’s Day (or +1).
  4. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    Word on the street was they were trying to screw Stephanie down on her contract. She reportedly got $500K for the Parade itself and attending five to ten Rose Parade promotional events throughout the year. Nice semi-retirement! Probably the only better gig was Dick Wilson who worked 12 days a year playing Mr. Whipple (Please don’t squeeze the Charmin.) and got paid $300K per year in 1980′s dollars.
  5. Lori RivasJanuary 3, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Your my favorite election Eeyore, Tim. I high tailed it out of town today, so I cannot access TME comments on my phone. Gonna let the dust settle before I read the flames.
  6. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    Lori: No comments at all as of 1:25 pm. I think the bait is just too attractive so the usual suspects sense some kind of trap.
  7. BertaJanuary 3, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    Tim, Lori’s comments are just so off the charts that why bother to respond to her anymore. How many “day laborer’s” did she say she is personally sponsoring for legal immigration? In addition, she had repeatedly refused to answer my question as to whether her family came to the USA legally or not…
  8. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    Berta: According to our best information, my family members that originally came to this country were deserters from the Jacobite Army in the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745. Can I get a ruling on whether they came her “legally?”
  9. BertaJanuary 3, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    Tim any émigrés from 1745 predate the formation of the United States of America on July 4, 1776 and our official recognition date of September 3, 1783 therefore; they/you are legal American citizens.
  10. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    I must disagree. They were on the lam and would have been hanged by both the Jacobites and the Hanoverian rulers of Scotland and England. Also, were the slaves resident in the US in 1783 legal citizens?
  11. BertaJanuary 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm
    Tim you can disagree all you like. You asked for my opinion, I gave it to you. As to the black slaves and citizenship, they are the reason the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868.
  12. Lori RivasJanuary 4, 2012 at 12:58 am
    First of all, Berta, I have not refused to answer; I have simply ignored your metiche question. Secondly, your insistence on knowing my family’s immigration status as a litmus test for the value of my opinion is a real life example of “shooting arrows at anything that smells like beans.” Lastly, you may want to know me a little before you insinuate hypocrisy.
  13. BertaJanuary 4, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Lori calling my valid question regarding your ancestors “metiche” and ignoring the question tells me all that I need to know. Your answer is that of a “cobarde” (coward). Your ancestors’ legal status has direct bearing on your espousal of/for illegal immigrants, day laborers, etc. You demand answers and clarity from others but as a hypocrite demur when your own motivation is questioned. If your ancestors had predated the formation of the USA or had arrived in the USA by legal means, you would be proud of that fact as are the rest of us instead of hiding behind calling my question nosey. As to the “bean” comments, then would that be one “bean” questioning another? That is the biggest problem with your supposed racist angle, anyone challenging you, Cedillo, Gutierrez, etc or those who think like you are branded as racist. Who then in your worldview could ever legitimately disagree with or question you on anything? Sorry Lori, your argument fails. My question is a legitimate question and has direct bearing on your position advocating on behalf of illegal immigrants. As to knowing your better before forming an opinion, Lori I know that you accepted money from the SEIU (county employees union) and opposed the formation of our municipal libraries to stay with the county instead so in MHO you are tainted. I know that you advocate for persons in this country illegally so you are not for the rule of law. I know that you question the integrity of others but fail to answer questions regarding your own which makes you a hypocrite. Just based on those facts alone, it appears to me that you support unions and illegal aliens at the expense of legal American taxpayers, pick and choose which laws should be enforced according to your own criteria, and hold others to a standard you yourself do not abide by, do as I say but not as I do. Thank you but I do not want to know you any better given those facts.
  14. Lori RivasJanuary 4, 2012 at 10:53 am
    Really, Berta? My opinion only has value when you know my immigration status? Here’s the footnote version: my ancestral family is German-Irish, and American-born back to sometime in the early 1800′s. I come from a family of war veterans and heroes, and I had two choices for college, one of which was Annapolis. My husband’s family are all American born, back to the late 1800′s/early 1900′s, and came into the country, legally, to work the fields. And the majority of my in-laws are very, very conservative. But, please, find something else in my personal life to attack, rather than discussing an issue.
  15. Lori RivasJanuary 4, 2012 at 11:08 am
    My husband, also, comes from a family of war veterans and heroes. Took my kids to the traveling Vietnam Wall to make a rubbing of their Purple Heart awarded, main subject of a Vietnam War book, paternal uncle’s name.
  16. BertaJanuary 4, 2012 at 11:29 am
    Lori your opinion always has value, whether I agree with you or not. Motivation also factors into credibility when I am evaluating comments. You are the one who has refused to debate the issues or answer questions, not me. Just as you are the one who tries to pull the race card, not me. If as you say you have so many patriots who served to protect and defend this great country, then I am even more astonished that you would be okay with folks breaking our laws and overrunning our sovereign borders with impunity. I disagree with you based upon your stated views on the issues Lori.
  17. 4eyedsueJanuary 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Lori- I think it’s a fine column. We all blather on and on about immigration… but no one really wants to be the one to do anything either way. And those immigrants are not all from the south- just yesterday I met a lovely educated woman from the Philippines who was working here for $6.oo an hour. Seven days a week. All this attention the libertarians are getting… here’s Gary Johnson’s ideas on immigration: “should focus on making it easier and simpler for willing workers to come here with a temporary work visa, pay taxes, contribute to society, and fill jobs as the market demands. Fences and walls do not keep out illegal immigrants. Real border security means knowing who is coming here and why. With workable employer verification systems, smarter border enforcement, and common sense, a national problem can be turned into a national benefit.
  18. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Yes, let’s all talk about Gary Johnson since he is SO likely to achieve high elected office. I need people to pay attention to my manifesto because I have EXACTLY the same chance of becoming President as Gary Johnson.
  19. 4eyedsueJanuary 3, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    Isn’t that why we are on this blog, Mr. Myers? To talk? To exchange ideas- get them out there? Gary Johnson may not win (*gasp*- did I type that?), but shouldn’t we be talking about new ideas, third or even fourth parties…? We need people like Gary Johnson and we need to get their ideas heard. His stance on the majority of the issues is right in line with the majority of Americans. If we don’t change the direction we are headed, we will end up where we are going. Represented by politicians who don’t represent us.
  20. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    I need to ride that unicorn of yours soon.
  21. 4eyedsueJanuary 3, 2012 at 3:55 pm
    Be the change you want to see in the world, Timmy. Or some such crap. and stay away from my unicorn (creepy)
  22. 4eyedsueJanuary 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    PS~ this just in: Gary Johnson is gaining support from all factions of political ideologies. He is now at 9% since his switch from GOP to Libertarian.
  23. Timothy Myers SRJanuary 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    So many have won elections with 9% of the vote.
  24. 4eyedsueJanuary 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm
    His support has tripled in the one week since he announced his switch from GOP to libertarian. This country is ready for a third party candidate. Just last week there were headlines of voters leaving the major parties in droves since 2008 (when I left the GOP!). My guess is that this isn’t because voters just can’t make up their minds- no- it’s because they are disgusted with both the republican and democratic parties. We are lookin’ for something different… Johnson may not win this time around, but he’s laying the groundwork for change and I’m going for it. Enough banging our heads against the wall with the same old same old.
  25. Lori RivasJanuary 4, 2012 at 1:03 am
    I like Johnson’s ideas about immigration labor, 4eyedsue. I’ll check him out. Yes, I know that immigrant workers come from all over the world. I used Mexicans as an example because they are a predominant lightening rod for immigrant conversation. I, too, vote my conscious, BTW, and don’t throw my vote to whomever is most likely to win.
  26. JeffJanuary 3, 2012 at 3:54 pm
    Good column Lori. And I say that as the man who used to write Signal columns under the nom de plume “Melquiades Sanchez.” Melquiades was an illegal immigrant from Mexico and he wrote about what life was like in the SCV. I think he wrote two columns before his creator ran out of ideas and guts
  27. CCJanuary 3, 2012 at 8:36 pm
    Nobody said that an illegal alien couldn’t write a good column. It doesn’t make them any more legal.
  28. Lori RivasJanuary 4, 2012 at 1:05 am
    Thanks, Melquíades…em, err…Jeff. I appreciate the compliment.
  29. CanyonhighJanuary 4, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Relevance of what state your wife is from pls?

Preserved as part of the SCV Talk Archive. Text is presented as originally published; presentation has been standardised for readability. The original capture is available at the Internet Archive.

Support