SCV Talk · Archive
Nine years of the Valley’s town square · 2006–2015
SCV Talk
April 11, 2012· scvtalk.com · WordPress (SCVTalk 3.0) · Wayback capture

April 11, 2012 Daily Brief-”The Earth Did Move” Edition

By Timothy Myers SR. — Tim Myers

  • So nice to see the SIGNAL finally came around to what SCVNEWS and SCVTALK  called around 10:00 pm last night; namely that TimBen Boydston had unseated a sitting incumbent for only the third time in City history.  For those that think this was a near thing they are mistaken.  Laurie Ender was literally gang stomped by TimBen into political oblivion.  And for those Ender apologists who might attribute the loss to some weak campaigning, I count myself as one of the converted that the seal of incumbency has now been broken and the actions of local elected officials have consequences.

    We will have much more in the days to come dissecting the results and the probable domino effect this will have on other local races, but a major fault line has opened around local politics and its effects will ripple; probably for years to come.

  • Though certainly not insignificant to the victims and their families, SIGNAL reports (statistically insignificant) increases in violent crime year on year.
  • SIGNAL followup on the charge sheet against “backyard butcher” in Tick Canyon Robert Celedon begs the question:  Who bought meat from this guy?

Comments (46)

  1. MikeApril 11, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Easy there, Biden. There was no “literal” stomping
  2. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 9:28 am
    TimBen is the “Omar” of Santa Clarita politics. Rip and run baby, rip and run..
  3. NateApril 11, 2012 at 9:30 am
    HAHA
  4. mikecApril 11, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Lol!
  5. AnnetteApril 11, 2012 at 9:55 am
    From Laurie Ender Website ~”I have been so blessed to serve on the City Council for four years and am thankful beyond words to the network of friends, family and volunteers who have supported me. God has something else planned for me and I’m ready and willing for whatever this new chapter brings. Let’s turn the page…onward!” A gracious concession………
  6. CCApril 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
    Yes, but I’m not sad to see her go. I feel so vindicated as a citizen of SC. Power to the people! Don’t disappoint me TimBen!
  7. AnnetteApril 11, 2012 at 10:12 am
    CC~ I am not sorry to see her go either, just that I thought she made a gracious concession. As a member of the TBB campaign team, I have all the faith in the world in TBB and his integrity.
  8. AnnetteApril 12, 2012 at 5:32 pm
    Just an FYI after posting to Re elect Laurie Ender’s Facebook page the other day, that I thought she made a gracious concession, her Christian attitude has responded by… “You probably reached this page by entering the guid of a syndicated error message into the location bar of your browser. This probably means that you can’t see the feed that you were trying to access. This is probably because the owner of the feed changed his or her privacy settings or deleted content on the feed. You may be able to get access to the feed by contacting the owner of the content being syndicated in that feed.” Anyway, I did think it was a gracious concession.
  9. Lori RivasApril 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
    I think the whole page has been taken down, Annette. She has her concession on her personal FB page, now, and it is accessible to the general public.
  10. MikeApril 12, 2012 at 6:33 pm
    Looks like the campaign page on FB is no more. That would explain your message.
  11. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 10:09 am
    “In God We Trust”
  12. NateApril 11, 2012 at 11:08 am
    You are batting .1000 this morning.
  13. JaneApril 11, 2012 at 11:06 am
    She is so ridiculous, as if the only reason she LOST was because God has other things in mind for her?
  14. NateApril 11, 2012 at 11:09 am
    Come on really? This is what religious people always say.
  15. AdamApril 11, 2012 at 11:34 am
    I would disagree. I’m religious and if I mucked up my campaign I’d say, “Congratulations to the other guy. He ran a better campaign then me. I am disappointed but will wait to see what God has next for me.” Anyways I’m a firm believer in “God helps those who help themselves.” He, generally speaking, is rather fair when it comes to things like working hard.
  16. Lori RivasApril 11, 2012 at 11:52 am
    Tell that to the Ethiopian farmer whose livelihood has been decimated by drought, war and political maneuverings — the man who works hard, every day, and yet cannot care for his family. On the flip side, a rich man is no more an example of righteousness nor is his wealth a necessary result of “hard work.” What God is “fair” about, is that though while we all deserve absolutely nothing, He offers to each of us love and peace. God makes it abundantly clear that we should be humble and thankful for any blessings that come our way, because, in reality, we deserve absolutely nothing. God is “generally speaking” nothing. He is absolute everything, namely love, mercy and grace.
  17. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    This is as good a time as any for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M Peace be with you all.
  18. Lori RivasApril 11, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Scott, that’s a really beautiful audio and images. The only point with which I cannot agree is that “there is no evidence of any help for outside.” The over riding message, however, is wonderful and worthy of contemplation.
  19. AdamApril 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Lori I do agree. I speak more from my life experience though when I say that, the generally speaking qualifier. It wasn’t meant as a statement of theological fact. In my own life I’ve found that when I work hard, God is more willing to bless that labor. When I am lazy, He doesn’t. This is a scripturally based philosophy. Just read through Proverbs to find many examples of this theology. Alternatively the things you cited can also be found in scripture as well, one book over in Ecclesiasties(sp?). All that aside, God is good all the time and his grace is abundant for those times when we don’t feel that way.
  20. NateApril 11, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    Point is it is all just words…
  21. AlpinerApril 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    Not really Nate. There is more evidence for God than you simply want to admit.
  22. NateApril 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    You forgot the quotes around “evidence”
  23. ScottApril 11, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    Oy.
  24. SCV SageApril 11, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    As folks say, God doesn’t move parked cars. Also, old joke about guy praying & praying & praying to win the lottery; complains about it to folks at church that God isn’t answering his prayers; and he hears loud voice from the heavens — “Work with me, at least buy a lottery ticket”.
  25. Saugus DadApril 11, 2012 at 9:59 am
    “I’m ready and willing for whatever this new chapter brings.”…Block Monitor on Jakes Way?
  26. CCApril 11, 2012 at 10:04 am
    I think at the very least, Laurie should be a crossing guard over there.
  27. AlpinerApril 11, 2012 at 10:30 am
    Even though it was raining this morning, the sun was shining on the SCV!
  28. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    “The only point with which I cannot agree is that “there is no evidence of any help for(sic) outside.” – Lori OK, I’ll bite … what is your evidence? #herewego
  29. CCApril 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    somehow, I knew you would
  30. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    “I’m tryin real hard to be the Shepard … ” – Dude in Pulp Fiction
  31. Lori RivasApril 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    I am happy to share my faith as a matter of discussion, but please know that I am not interested, nor under any illusion, that I can or will change minds. I fully embrace that faith is highly personal, and everyone comes to their own peace, in their own time, in their own way. I don’t think that God fits into any box, and *anywhere* there is love and truth, there also is God. And really, that sums up my evidence of God. There is so much ugliness in this world, so much hate and false piety, that anytime I see love, beauty, truth, justice, I know that there is something more than man. I know that you’ll say that isn’t “evidence,” but rather “faith,” and, true enough, I did not see God’s actual hand create anything. I’m good with that, living in that faith. I welcome any other perspectives, and do think about and evaluate my faith often. I’ll never forget the first time I helped deliver a baby — that was a miracle that spoke volumes to me about a higher power. I’ve witnessed, first hand, something that can only be supernatural (doesn’t translate well in written form, but I’d be glad to relate, in person, any time, and its not some private, imagined, emotional, hyper-spiritual thing). And I tell everyone that the absolutely biggest spiritual experience in my life was becoming a mother, and understanding the sacrificial, total and blown away love of a parent for a child. Becoming a parent has given me a refreshed and renewed and humbled view of how God loves all of creation.
  32. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    OK.
  33. Lori RivasApril 11, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    Lastly, I don’t think that I am necessarily any more enlightened than anyone else who is seeking truth and justice and love, no matter what their beliefs are. Nor am I foolish enough to think that I have it all figured out.
  34. AlpinerApril 11, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    You don’t have to have it all figured out to know where truth, justice and love come from.
  35. Lori RivasApril 11, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    I mean that I am not foolish enough to think I’ve got the fully correct perception of this sovereign and loving God, nor could anyone have a fully correct perception. He’s God. He’s beyond understanding. But I can rest in the love and beauty He gives me every day.
  36. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    And may I just add: Kumbaya #thatisall #letsmovealongnow
  37. ScottEApril 11, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    So, how about those Dodgers?
  38. ToddApril 11, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    Tied for second most wins in the big leagues!!!!!
  39. Ron Burgundy?April 11, 2012 at 7:06 pm
    How is a 25-percent increase in crime not significant? Does anyone on this website own a calculator other than the CPA who blogs for it?
  40. ScottEApril 12, 2012 at 8:33 am
    “Statistically Insignificant.” Example:** Murders last year: 4 Murders this year: 5 Increase=25% “Statistically insignificant.” **-Not actual numbers as far as I know, just used for the example.
  41. MikeApril 12, 2012 at 8:49 am
    He didn’t want to hear from another CPA. Shut your hole, yeah? Violent crime is up from 91 incidents over one period to 115 in another. I’m not a criminologist, so I don’t know how to determine whether or not the number is statistically significant, nor do I have the historical data in front of me, but if it’s statistically insignificant, it’s that an increase of 24 crimes (0.26 additional violent crimes per day in valley of ~250k) isn’t statistically significant. If the long-term crime rate stays steady, there is still going to be fluctuation from quarter to quarter. IHeart broke this down a little while ago pretty well. I wonder what he thinks.
  42. ScottEApril 12, 2012 at 8:52 am
    0 0
  43. Ron Burgundy?April 12, 2012 at 8:19 pm
    @Mike: I see your point. Fair enough, I just think that a second consecutive increase in violent crime of more than 20 percent over the same time a year ago (especially in light of the fact that we’re paroling thousands more prisoners statewide than we have in the past, which, only my opinion here, is playing a trickle-down role in the increases) is significant. Is the SCV turning into a war zone? No. However, I think Myers’ comment dismisses a relevant story without explanation. It’s hard to prove that the stats are or aren’t relevant without context, which isn’t really provided in the story. I just think that as much bashing as I see on this site, I don’t expect to see the same crap they complain about on other sources, posted here. @ ScottE: thanks for the terrible third-grade analogy that doesn’t prove anything. I hope that made you feel smart.
  44. IHeartSCVApril 12, 2012 at 9:00 am
    I’m not a criminologist either, but statistical significance does have a precise, formal meeting (i.e., you can do a test in any commercial stats program to see if populations are significantly different or if trends are significant; there’s even a whole Wikipedia entry about it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance ). I think Tim assumed (perhaps rightly) that the change was insignificant because there’s naturally quite a lot of year-to-year variability in crime rates.
  45. MikeApril 13, 2012 at 9:08 am
    The reason why I wonder about a criminologist’s perspective is I wonder just how “population” is defined when it comes to assessing crime statistics. Is the whole population the population? Very few people, even in big cities, will ever commit a violent crime. A thing that irks me is all the conjecture about the influx of parolees, particularly when it comes from an LASD source. For one, the parolees were nearly nonviolent offenders and we’re discussing violent crimes (not that the pools aren’t mutually exclusive). But if it were parolees who are being arrested/suspected for these crimes, it would be very easy to determine since we know who’s been parolled.
  46. Ron Burgundy?April 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    By the way, how did Myers math work out on his Ender prediction? I thought he called that one?

Preserved as part of the SCV Talk Archive. Text is presented as originally published; presentation has been standardised for readability. The original capture is available at the Internet Archive.

Support